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2 total messages Started by Robert C. White Jr. Wed, 08 Jul 1987 01:04

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Author: Robert C. White Jr.
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1987 01:04

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My mail program "mailx" has a option to produce internet addresses
from the "regular" addressing system useing "!".

I am by no means an expert, but all this "conversion" seems to do
is hack off the last system name and addressed account name of the
end of sys1!sys2!sys3!sys12!othersys!whathaveyou!thatguy [or whatever]
and give me <thatguy@whathaveyou> as the return address.

Is this enough for the "internet" mail sites to deliver these messages
to the correct systems?
My system is not actually able to deliver messages with these addresses
but it does have hooks to run other programs from inside the "mailx"
system... Is there a mailer program I can/should be running?

The reason I ask is that If someone sends me mail from usenet I get
a Reply-To: string that starts at my backbone site and goes from
there.

I get: 		sdcsvax!...
instead of: 	man!jack!ucsdhub!sdcsvax!...

I need the latter, or some solution.  According to my manual you can
only set an alias for the last recepiant, not an intervening machine
name.

Any help would help!


Robert.

Disclaimer:  My mind is so fragmented by random excursions into a
	wilderness of abstractions and incipient ideas that the
	practical purposes of the moment are often submerged in
	my consciousness and I don't know what I'm doing.
		[my employers certainly have no idea]

conv=internet in mailx

#4305

Author: Matt Costello
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1987 07:32

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In article <790@nu3b2.UUCP> rwhite@nu3b2 writes:
>My mail program "mailx" has a option to produce internet addresses
>from the "regular" addressing system useing "!".
>
>I am by no means an expert, but all this "conversion" seems to do
>is hack off the last system name and addressed account name of the
>end of sys1!sys2!sys3!sys12!othersys!whathaveyou!thatguy [or whatever]
>and give me <thatguy@whathaveyou> as the return address.
>
>Is this enough for the "internet" mail sites to deliver these messages
>to the correct systems?

It is if you've got a "real" internet system.  The problem you find is that
systems (such as nu3b2) that aren't registered.  When this happens
the "set conv=internet" of mailx is a big lose.  For this reason you
don't want to turn it on.  A better option for replying to usenet articles
is a mail router that supports a safe form of re-routing.

>My system is not actually able to deliver messages with these addresses
>but it does have hooks to run other programs from inside the "mailx"
>system... Is there a mailer program I can/should be running?

Mail addressing is going towards domains and you'll need a mail router
that can handle domains (and internet addressing).  I'd suggest you
get smail, either mine or theirs.  I'm going to be prejudiced and say
that you should use my version of smail.  It is set up to handle the
configuration and maintenance automatically, and also centralizes
administration at a single site for multiple-site domains.  You will find
that most other mail routers preclude running the identical binary on
multiple machines because they compile-in the configuration.

Find out if National University has a domain name registered; if it
does it will probably be something line "natu.edu".

Note that none of the mail routers (smail/uumail/hpmail/sendmail/mmdf)
require that you change the program that a user runs, so that
your users can continue to use mailx.

>The reason I ask is that If someone sends me mail from usenet I get
>a Reply-To: string that starts at my backbone site and goes from
>there.
>
>I get: 		sdcsvax!...
>instead of: 	man!jack!ucsdhub!sdcsvax!...
>
>I need the latter, or some solution.  According to my manual you can
>only set an alias for the last recepiant, not an intervening machine
>name.

Almost any mail router can fix this problem.  With my version of smail
the normal fix would be the line
	NEXTINFO	sdcsvax	sdcsvax.ucsd.edu!%s
in the configuration file, although the PUSHYROUTE option will also
fix it.
-- 
Matt Costello	<matt.costello@SanDiego.NCR.COM>
+1 619 485 2926	<matt.costello%SanDiego.NCR.COM@Relay.CS.NET>
		{sdcsvax,cbosgd,pyramid,nosc.ARPA,ihnp4}!ncr-sd!matt

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