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Article #205Re: Mass market MIME based e-mail question
From: Alasdair Grant
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:14
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:14
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In article <Bw2E9L.9Kx@mtholyoke.edu> jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes: >In article <1992Oct13.113431.7685@infodev.cam.ac.uk> ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) writes: >>like POP2/POP3/IMAP2/IMAP3/..., and these protocols are not stable enough > >I don't buy this argument. What do you mean by "not stable enough"..? Do >you think that these vendors never change their protocols? A lot of them >won't even bother maintaining backward compatibility when they do! (They >have less need to do so since customers can usually upgrader their whole >site if they choose to upgrade). Internet protocols are far more concerned >with interoperability and are generally "stable" for much longer stretches >of time than proprietary vendor protocols. But MS, Lotus or whoever will sell the client and server as a package. The _whole point_ of POP and IMAP is that they provide interworking between different vendors' clients and servers; in particular the server is usually public-domain (no fancy user-interface stuff). So if a vendor wants to have control over the protocol, they would have to sell both client and server. Yes, Internet protocols are generally stable, but remote-mail-management is an exception! Just look at the IMAP2 vs. IMAP3 controversy for example. It does look as if IMAP2bis is settling down, but there are a number of unanswered problems (authentication in the absence of Kerberos, quota management, manual and automatic forwarding, interface to the Directory) and I get the feeling some people are waiting for CMU's Andrew II messaging system to take a more coherent approach. (IMAP2's specialisation on the 'Retrieval' function is in line with Internet no-redundancy policy, but has pitfalls in practice. To me, redundancy means having five competing mail-retrieval protocols!)
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pipex!unipalm!uknet!pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!ag129 From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) Newsgroups: comp.mail.multi-media Subject: Re: Mass market MIME based e-mail question Message-ID: <1992Oct13.181430.19214@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Date: 13 Oct 92 18:14:30 GMT References: <1992Oct13.054709.22181@netcom.com> <1992Oct13.113431.7685@infodev.cam.ac.uk> <Bw2E9L.9Kx@mtholyoke.edu> Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news) Organization: U of Cambridge, England Lines: 29 Nntp-Posting-Host: bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk