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3 total messages Started by Jim Millard Wed, 07 Oct 1998 00:00
Rich text in message editor
#134
Author: Jim Millard
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 00:00
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Hi,

I'm extremely frustrated with rich text editing in v3.01b. While the
button bar is completely intuitive, it's difficult to tell if any of
the styles (bold, italics, etc) are set unless the caret is at a
character of modified text. The only sure way to work with it is to go
back afterward and modify the text, rather than switching it off and
on as you type.

I'm also confused by to the short listing of fonts available,
especially the exclusion of Arial, Courier New and Times New Roman.
Further, there's no way to tell if you've applied a font specifically,
or simply using the default font for non-rich text.

It'd be nice if there was a <Default> entry to reset the font for
"generic" processing by the receiver.
Re: Rich text in message editor
#133
Author: David J. Kocmoud
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 00:00
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Jim Millard <jim3@NOSPAM.millard.org> wrote in article
<361bcdeb.200195275@news.supernews.com>...
> I'm extremely frustrated with rich text editing in v3.01b. While the
> button bar is completely intuitive, it's difficult to tell if any of
> the styles (bold, italics, etc) are set unless the caret is at a
> character of modified text. The only sure way to work with it is to go
> back afterward and modify the text, rather than switching it off and
> on as you type.

??? So what's your point??  This is exactly like all other windows
wordprocessor applications work.

If your problem is that you would like to know whether or not WinPMail will
be sending out the message as richtext or as plaintext, v3.01c will include
a checkbox option above the toolbar that will automatically become checked
whenever you use a richtext feature.  You can also manually uncheck this
checkbox to send a message as plaintext, stripping out any richtext
elements at the point of sending the message.

> I'm also confused by to the short listing of fonts available,
> especially the exclusion of Arial, Courier New and Times New Roman.

You either have too many fonts or have limited GDI resources.  This problem
occurs quite often for me when my windows GDI resources start dwindling
below 20%.  Standard windows problem here.  Try reducing the number of
fonts you normally have avaiable (you can always install fonts on-the-fly
whenever you need them and remove them afterwards) or restart windows.

> Further, there's no way to tell if you've applied a font specifically,
> or simply using the default font for non-rich text.

In v3.01c, you'll see the rich-text checkbox enabled if you happen to
change fonts.  You can use the Ctrl-0 (zero) Reset Styles feature to reset
a line back to normal, including the standard default font.

> It'd be nice if there was a <Default> entry to reset the font for
> "generic" processing by the receiver.

I'll check into this for v3.1, but I think this may be a limitation of the
TER editor--but we can request this feature of the TER programmers for a
future release of the TER editor.

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Re: Rich text in message editor
#128
Author: Jim Millard
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:00
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David J. Kocmoud,

> ??? So what's your point??  This is exactly like all other windows
> wordprocessor applications work.

Not quite. I can assure you that Word indicates Italics, Bold, etc. as 
soon as you hit the keyboard shortcut. Pegasus only changes *after* you 
type the first character in that style.

> If your problem is that you would like to know whether or not WinPMail will
> be sending out the message as richtext or as plaintext, v3.01c will include
[...]

Nope, not a problem.

> > I'm also confused by to the short listing of fonts available,
> > especially the exclusion of Arial, Courier New and Times New Roman.
> 
> You either have too many fonts or have limited GDI resources.  This problem
> occurs quite often for me when my windows GDI resources start dwindling
> below 20%.  Standard windows problem here.  Try reducing the number of
> fonts you normally have avaiable (you can always install fonts on-the-fly
> whenever you need them and remove them afterwards) or restart windows.

How can GDI resources be a problem in a 32-bit Windows application? NT 
doesn't even *have* a resource meter, much less a limitation, while Win9x 
has so many (albeit finite) that a single app shouldn't run into 
problems.

And if it's a font problem, why is it that only Pegasus is having trouble 
with it?

> > Further, there's no way to tell if you've applied a font specifically,
> > or simply using the default font for non-rich text.
> 
> In v3.01c, you'll see the rich-text checkbox enabled if you happen to
> change fonts.  You can use the Ctrl-0 (zero) Reset Styles feature to reset
> a line back to normal, including the standard default font.

*Now* I'm looking forward to the "c" release.
 
> > It'd be nice if there was a <Default> entry to reset the font for
> > "generic" processing by the receiver.
> 
> I'll check into this for v3.1, but I think this may be a limitation of the
> TER editor--but we can request this feature of the TER programmers for a
> future release of the TER editor.

TER?
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