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Article #2640

SUMMARY: i refuse to talk to myself

#2640
From: Karl Gaissmaier
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 09:06
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In article <1992Dec14.084352.29295@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de> gaissmai@xwini.rz.uni-ulm.de 
(Karl Gaissmaier) writes:

>MikroVax-3100
>ULTRIX V4.2 (Rev. 85)
>Sendmail-5.57
>
>This machine (netway.rz.uni-ulm.de) is our domain name server and MX-Server 
>for various other machines. netway is also our backup MailExchanger for 
>mathematik.uni-ulm.de, see below:

>  mathematik.uni-ulm.de   preference = 0, mail exchanger = laborix.mathematik.uni-ulm.de
>  mathematik.uni-ulm.de   preference = 5, mail exchanger = titania.mathematik.uni-ulm.de
>  mathematik.uni-ulm.de   preference = 100, mail exchanger = netway.rz.uni-ulm.de
>  mathematik.uni-ulm.de   preference = 200, mail exchanger = noc.belwue.de

>in the case, that both MX-Servers laborix.mathematik.uni-ulm.de and
>titania.mathematik.uni-ulm.de are down at the same time, all mails
>for mathematik.uni-ulm.de are sent to netway.rz.uni-ulm.de.
>
>The netway now doesn't queue the mails until the more precedenced
>MX_Servers laborix or titania are online, netway tries to connect
>with itself and in order to prevent loops, netway can only say:
>	i refuse to talk to myself
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the solution is:

this sendmail version does not set the fully qualified domain name (FQDN) in the $w Makro, but
the comparison with the MX-RR is made with the $w Makro and therefore netway can not 
recognize itself because netway and netway.rz.uni-ulm.de are different.

make the following:

set the $w Makro to the FQDN explizit: Dwnetway.rz.uni-ulm.de
set the $A Makro to the unqualified domain name: DAnetway
replace all occurences of $w with $A in the .cf file

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many thanks to all replies on the net. i was ill after my question and my news-grabber
didn't save the headers, and therefore i can't say my thanks to the man who helped me
with the right hint, but it was the following article number and text [no trailers :-(]:

>Article: 3925 of comp.mail.sendmail

>You need to make sure that $w is defined to be 'netway.rz.uni-ulm.de'

>If sendmail does not automatically define it this way try adding a
>line

>	Dwnetway.rz.uni-ulm.de

>to your configuration.  You may then have to make some other changes
>to avoid double domains.

>[Explanation:  sendmail check an MX record against $w.  If they are equal
>it discards this MX record and any record of worse preference.  Thus if
>the two main hosts are down it should now queue the mail rather than
>send to itself].

many thanks explicit to this author :-(thanks)

btw is there an archiver of the group comp.mail.sendmail??

gaissmai@rz.uni-ulm.de
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From: gaissmai@xwini.rz.uni-ulm.de (Karl Gaissmaier)
Subject: SUMMARY: i refuse to talk to myself
Message-ID: <1993Jan8.090604.4425@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>
Keywords: MX, DNS
Sender: gaissmai@xwini (Karl Gaissmaier)
Organization: Universitaet Ulm
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:06:04 GMT
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