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7 total messages Started by Jim Reid Mon, 17 Oct 1988 11:12
Re: Config files
#2872
Author: Jim Reid
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1988 11:12
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|> My problem is that we have a ethernet on which we have many differnet
|> machines including suns and micro-vaxes
|> On one machine (a vax) we run mmdf. We would like to arrange
|> for all the machines to send mail that they cannot resolve to this vax.
|> If the user says fred@xxy.ac.uk then we pass this to the vax ok
|> but if the user say fred@somewhere sendmail tries to send this to
|> a host called somewhere on our net (it fails).
|> In the comments to the ultrix gereric.mc 3.3 it appears that
|> we can define FS/etc/hosts and this looks as if this should spot that
|> "somewhere" is undefined and try our central machine but this is not the
|> case
|> What am I doing (or not doing) wrong?

You are going wrong on two counts. Firstly, you're using (or adapting)
a vendor-supplied "generic" sendmail.cf file. This is almost always a
mistake as they invariably fail to do what they claim to. Secondly,
you're not using Jim Crammond's configuration file compiler kit. This
makes configuring sendmail a doddle and has the advantage of being
easily maintainable. It will cure your sendmail troubles, so get hold
of a copy and use it!

[To the list maintainer: perhaps you could post an advert for this
kit, explaining what it is and how to get it, to the DL every now and
again. An alternative would be to pass this information to folk who
join the list. I'm surprised that some people on this DL are unaware
of Jim Crammond's compiler kit. It seem a pity that the DL looks to be
headed for discussions of the minutae of the FooBar Computer Company's
"generic" sendmail.cf file version AA.BB.CC.DD.EE.]

		Jim
Re: Config files
#2878
Author: Dr. Emilio Lizardo
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1988 21:29
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In article <8810171058.AA00829@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) writes:
:You are going wrong on two counts. Firstly, you're using (or adapting)
:a vendor-supplied "generic" sendmail.cf file. This is almost always a
:mistake as they invariably fail to do what they claim to. Secondly,
:you're not using Jim Crammond's configuration file compiler kit. This
:makes configuring sendmail a doddle and has the advantage of being
:easily maintainable. It will cure your sendmail troubles, so get hold
:of a copy and use it!

Can this be posted? I, too, am stuck with a vendor-supplied sendmail.cf,
and I wouldn't want to try to edit it.

If it will not be posted, is it available by anonymous uucp (no FTP here)
from any site within the US?  I really don't want to have to download
software from the UK if I can avoid it.

Thanks in advance...

-- 
Tom Gillespie  ( ...att!picuxa!tgr) | (attmail!tgillespie) (201) 952-1178
AT&T/EDS Product Integration Center  299 Jefferson Rd. Parsippany NJ 07054

"Don't take life so serious ... it ain't nohow permanent."  -- Walt Kelly
Re: Config files
#2883
Author: Carlo Sgro
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1988 14:30
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>:Secondly,
>:you're not using Jim Crammond's configuration file compiler kit. 
>
>Can this be posted? I, too, am stuck with a vendor-supplied sendmail.cf,
>and I wouldn't want to try to edit it.
>

I also request a posting of it.  I tried to send mail to jim@cs.strath.ac.uk
without success.

-- 

Carlo Sgro                              NET POLICE WARNING:  .signatures that  
watmath!watcgl!electro!carlo            are too long will be trunc
Re: Config files
#2887
Author: Jem Taylor
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1988 10:54
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In article <684@picuxa.UUCP> tgr@picuxa.UUCP (Dr. Emilio Lizardo) writes:
>
>Can this be posted? I, too, am stuck with a vendor-supplied sendmail.cf,
>and I wouldn't want to try to edit it.
>
>If it will not be posted, is it available by anonymous uucp (no FTP here)
>from any site within the US?  I really don't want to have to download
>software from the UK if I can avoid it.
>
>Tom Gillespie  ( ...att!picuxa!tgr) | (attmail!tgillespie) (201) 952-1178

We are working on a new improved version 2.0 for release in December; I
will post that version then. If you *really* want the radically inferior
current version now, then

in the UK and EUNET send mail to info-server@uk.ac.glasgow.cs to get
instructions. You want request:sources, topic: sendmail-1.6

in the US (the info-server will not talk to you if it would
cost money to do so) mail me and I will mail it you or post it depending 
on demand. Remember the new version will be out in about 8 weeks and will
be posted; upgrading from 1.6 to 2.0 will require almost as much effort as
installing either from scratch.

via UUCP send mail to info-server@glasgow.uucp via mcvax

-Jem Taylor.

PS:-) what are all these alternative paths people keep quoting in their
.signatures? We just reply to mail *and it works*.
-- 
ARPANet:taylor@cs.glasgow.ac.uk		| Mail:	J.A.Taylor, Computing Science,
JANET:	taylor@uk.ac.glasgow.cs		|	Glasgow University,
UseNet:	mcvax!cs.glasgow.ac.uk!taylor	|	GB-GLASGOW G12 8QQ
Re: Config files
#2886
Author: Jim Reid
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1988 12:12
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In article <684@picuxa.UUCP> tgr@picuxa.UUCP (Dr. Emilio Lizardo) writes:
* In article <8810171058.AA00829@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) writes:
* :You are going wrong on two counts. Firstly, you're using (or adapting)
* :a vendor-supplied "generic" sendmail.cf file. This is almost always a
* :mistake as they invariably fail to do what they claim to. Secondly,
* :you're not using Jim Crammond's configuration file compiler kit. This
* :makes configuring sendmail a doddle and has the advantage of being
* :easily maintainable. It will cure your sendmail troubles, so get hold
* :of a copy and use it!
* 
* Can this be posted? I, too, am stuck with a vendor-supplied sendmail.cf,
* and I wouldn't want to try to edit it.
* 
* If it will not be posted, is it available by anonymous uucp (no FTP here)
* from any site within the US?  I really don't want to have to download
* software from the UK if I can avoid it.

Jim Crammond's sendmail compiler kit was posted to comp.sources.unix
some time ago. It must have been earlier than Volume 7 of that newsgroup.
Our local comp.sources.unix archive site only goes back as far as Volume
7 and it isn't there. There was a patch supplied as article v08i051, so
the initial posting must have preceded that. You should be able to fetch
the kit from your nearest archive site that keeps the older stuff.

I will post the configuration file compiler kit in a week or so to
comp.mail.sendmail on two conditions:
	(a) nobody objects to me doing this
	(b) there is a general demand for it to be posted.
If you agree or disagree with me posting it, *MAIL* me. Don't post
followup news articles.

The whole kit is about 150Kbytes in size. If posting the kit is voted
down, I'm prepared to mail it to a few overseas sites who are willing
to redistribute it.

		Jim
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Re: Config files
#2897
Author: Mark Sirota
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1988 00:43
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In article <1244@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk writes:
>In article <684@picuxa.UUCP> tgr@picuxa.UUCP (Dr. Emilio Lizardo) writes:
>> In article <8810171058.AA00829@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) writes:
>>> you're not using Jim Crammond's configuration file compiler kit. This
>>> makes configuring sendmail a doddle and has the advantage of being
>>> easily maintainable.
>
> Jim Crammond's sendmail compiler kit was posted to comp.sources.unix
> some time ago. It must have been earlier than Volume 7 of that newsgroup.

Are you folks talking about Ease?  Ease is a nice sendmail.cf compiler kit
which was also posted to comp.sources.unix a while back.  I found it several
months ago on uunet.uu.net, I think, in the comp.sources.unix directory.  I
believe it was in Volume 10, but I could be wrong.  There was also a patch
in some later volume.

I don't see Jim Crammond's name in the Ease documentation anywhere, so
perhaps this is something different, but functionally it sounds like the
same thing.
-- 
Mark Sirota
 msir_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (rochester!ur-cc!msir_ltd)
Re: Config files
#2899
Author: Harvey R Moran
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1988 01:07
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In article <1244@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk writes:
>In article <684@picuxa.UUCP> tgr@picuxa.UUCP (Dr. Emilio Lizardo) writes:
>* In article <8810171058.AA00829@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) writes:
>Jim Crammond's sendmail compiler kit was posted to comp.sources.unix
>some time ago. It must have been earlier than Volume 7 of that newsgroup.
>Our local comp.sources.unix archive site only goes back as far as Volume
>7 and it isn't there. There was a patch supplied as article v08i051, so
>the initial posting must have preceded that. You should be able to fetch
>the kit from your nearest archive site that keeps the older stuff.

The patch reference was enough to be able to look it up.  It is called
UK-1.4 and comes in 5 parts.  It is in volume 4 of comp.sources unix I
found the listing in the available files list from "oncoast" which I
got back in May of this year.  Unfortunately "oncoast" has had a disk
crash since then and may or may not be back on the air.  I saw the
notice that is was down, but if there was a notice that is came back
up, I missed it.  The patch refered to is called "uk-1.4.pch.Z" and is
(as was said) in volume 9; "oncoast" lists it as 9003 bytes.

         Harvey Moran        moran%tron.UUCP@umbc3.UMD.EDU
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