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Article #388Re: lip sync
From: Russ Sasnett
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:15
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:15
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speaking as a filmmaker in a former life, i've found that a professional film editor knows when something is even 1 frame out of sync (that's at 24 fps for film). in my experience, a general audience can't tell the difference at 1 frame out; they may sense something is wrong at 2 frames out, but don't know quite what; and at 3 or more frames out, everybody seems to know what's wrong. on a 16mm film projector, the optical sound track is ahead of the picture by some number of frames; the advance is 20 for 35mm, i'm not sure about 16mm. this is because the film must be travelling at a constant velocity when it goes over the audio playback head, but the film must be held still for picture projection. every 1/48 of second the projector's shutter opens and displays a frame frozen in the gate. then the shutter closes and the film advances to the next frame during the following 1/48 of a second, while the screen is black. several spring-loaded rollers help to smooth out the jitter in the film's velocity before it hits the sound head. note that there must be exactly 20 frames between the gate and the sound pickup to play synchronized sound. when threading, the size of the bottom loop is the most critical factor. if the loop is too small, the sound is early; if the loop is too big, the sound is late. thanks to armies of amateur operators, whole generations of elementary school students have grown up watching 16mm films out of sync for this very reason. perhaps this explains a certain insensitivity to this problem among general audiences ... :) as to whether early or late makes a difference, i'm told that being early with sound is much worse than being late; and logically that would seem to make sense; but in my experience it didn't matter. i have known experts who could tell pretty quickly whether sound was ahead or behind of the pix, but most people don't have a clue about the direction of the delay when it's under 1/2 second. i know i didn't; i always had a tough time syncing up wild tracks where there was no slate. back and forth, back and forth i'd go ... try editing film on a Steenbeck flatbed some time. since you have separate sound and picture tracks, it's real easy to slip frames back and forth to experience the effect. --Russ rs05@gte.com
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!munnari.oz.au!samsung!transfer!ceylon!asylum!rs05 From: rs05@gte.com (Russ Sasnett) Newsgroups: comp.multimedia Subject: Re: lip sync Message-ID: <1113@ceylon.gte.com> Date: 13 Aug 92 15:15:55 GMT Sender: news@ceylon.gte.com Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA Lines: 47