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Mark_Skaff@softworx.access (Mark Skaff) writes:

>Can someone tell me what is necessary to have an IBM compatible MPC? (eg.
>Compact_Disc-ROM, requirements, sound, etc) I have heard many things, most
>of which are probably "vapourware".

The requirements are pretty minimal, they are a computer with a CD-ROM,
audio card, MS Windows with Multimedia extensions (whatever that is), and
VGA.

Nish Patel   nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

In article <1992Apr11.191041.4475@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel) writes:
>Mark_Skaff@softworx.access (Mark Skaff) writes:
>
>>Can someone tell me what is necessary to have an IBM compatible MPC? (eg.
>>Compact_Disc-ROM, requirements, sound, etc) I have heard many things, most
>>of which are probably "vapourware".
>
>The requirements are pretty minimal, they are a computer with a CD-ROM,
>audio card, MS Windows with Multimedia extensions (whatever that is), and
>VGA.

Not so. You require at least a 386sx, VGA, an MPC complient CD-ROM such as
the Sony 541/535 or the NEC-83M( but not the NEC-83), a suitable audio card
with mixing capabilities( SB Pro for example but not the SB), Midi, Windows
3.1( which includes the extensions).

Oh, forgot there's also a minimal HD and RAM requirement. It used to be that
286 systems were the base. That is no longer the case. The minimum is a 16MHz
sx.

philip
philip@utstat.toronto.edu

About the MPC requirements, I forgot about 386SX. And the other stuff, 
like RAM, will not be much different than ordinary computers, in other words,
many computers will already meet the other little requirements (including
the 386SX requirement). I did not mention exactly what "audio card" was
either. Anyway, it looks like many things can qualify, and for things like
sound, is there some kind of standard that an "MPC-compliant" app will use?
Also, like CDTV and CD-I, it does not have any provisions for motion
 video, something I and many consider important. (CDTV has a very limited
 format just quarter screen 10 fps using it's 4096 colors.)

 MPC should include some kind of provision for DVI, and the price for
 DVI should come down. This is the best way to go for multimedia of the
 future.

 Nish Patel   nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

In article <1992Apr12.035314.28690@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel) writes:
>About the MPC requirements, I forgot about 386SX. And the other stuff, 
>like RAM, will not be much different than ordinary computers, in other words,
>many computers will already meet the other little requirements (including
>the 386SX requirement). I did not mention exactly what "audio card" was
>either. Anyway, it looks like many things can qualify, and for things like
>sound, is there some kind of standard that an "MPC-compliant" app will use?
>Also, like CDTV and CD-I, it does not have any provisions for motion
> video, something I and many consider important. (CDTV has a very limited
> format just quarter screen 10 fps using it's 4096 colors.)

Why do you insist on spreading your misinformation everywhere?  Have you ever
seen a CDTV?  The "format" you refer to is CDXL and it is 1/3 screen at 12 fps.
As to the number of colors, it supports 4096 using standard hardware and up
to 2-4M colors (NTSC) using the DCTV add on.

CDTV and CDI do much more with ~8MHz 68000s than an MPC with 386sx and all
of the "multimedia" add-ons like VGA, SoundBlaster, and CDROM.

> MPC should include some kind of provision for DVI, and the price for
> DVI should come down. This is the best way to go for multimedia of the
> future.

Ha!  Just like the 486 is the best way to go for architectures of the future.
Are you getting paid by Intel to spread propaganda across the net?

> Nish Patel   nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>

Skip Sauls                     //    Graduate Student & Instructor
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu    \X/     CS Department, University of Mississippi 

philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>Not so. You require at least a 386sx, VGA, an MPC complient CD-ROM such as
>the Sony 541/535 or the NEC-83M( but not the NEC-83), a suitable audio card
>with mixing capabilities( SB Pro for example but not the SB), Midi, Windows
>3.1( which includes the extensions).
*----
The CDR-83 is fully MPC compliant.  It is also substantially faster
than most other MPC-compliant drives on the market.  The CDR-83M
would be a better choice, of course, because it is much better
at smooth-motion simulated video, but it wouldn't be accurate to
reject the CDR-83 as non-compliant (and say nothing about
Tandy's compliant CD-ROM drive with 1000 ms access time).
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu

>>The requirements are pretty minimal, they are a computer with a CD-ROM,
>>audio card, MS Windows with Multimedia extensions (whatever that is), and
>>VGA.
>
>Not so. You require at least a 386sx, VGA, an MPC complient CD-ROM such as
>the Sony 541/535 or the NEC-83M( but not the NEC-83), a suitable audio card
>with mixing capabilities( SB Pro for example but not the SB), Midi, Windows
>3.1( which includes the extensions).


    Has anyone figured out the smartdrv.sys/ scsi controller problem?
When using scsi for a cd-rom or other scsi device and ide as the primary
controller I invariably get a hang when I use smart drive. I've tried this
on two different systems now. Is there a mod to smartdrv.sys for the
multimedia extensions?



--
  Neal i1neal@exnet.iastate.edu

skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip 'AdaX' Sauls) writes:
>>Also, like CDTV and CD-I, it does not have any provisions for motion
>> video, something I and many consider important. (CDTV has a very limited
>> format just quarter screen 10 fps using it's 4096 colors.)

>Why do you insist on spreading your misinformation everywhere?  Have you ever
>seen a CDTV?  The "format" you refer to is CDXL and it is 1/3 screen at 12 fps.
>As to the number of colors, it supports 4096 using standard hardware and up
>to 2-4M colors (NTSC) using the DCTV add on.

Don't tell that to me. Tell that to the Amiga magazine I got this information
STRAIGHT OUT OF..

>CDTV and CDI do much more with ~8MHz 68000s than an MPC with 386sx and all
>of the "multimedia" add-ons like VGA, SoundBlaster, and CDROM.

In your opinion. I d not think the speed is all that important for the things
these three things do. Perhaps the only advantage of requiring a 386 is
so the Windows can use the 386 capabilities. (remember that many 286-16's are
as fast as a 386SX at 16 MHz. So why not allow them in this standard?)

>> MPC should include some kind of provision for DVI, and the price for
>> DVI should come down. This is the best way to go for multimedia of the
>> future.

>Ha!  Just like the 486 is the best way to go for architectures of the future.
>Are you getting paid by Intel to spread propaganda across the net?

Touchy, touchy, touchy. I am talking about multimedia for IBM's, which is
what this thread was about before you brought your Amiga propaganda into it.
I am not implying the Amiga should be abandoned in favor of DVI. And when
did I say the 486 is the way to go for architectures of the future? I never
said that (in fact, the 586 is probably a better choice, when it comes out.)
Maybe RISC is the way to go. Who knows? (excuse me for getting touchy, but
let's stick to the point of the threads. Leave the propoganda in advocacy or
a thread that calls for it.)

Nish Patel  nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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