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4 total messages Started by Levi Wallach Fri, 30 Oct 1992 03:06
TV Windows
#31
Author: Levi Wallach
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 03:06
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I've been trying to get a grip on what is out there in terms of TV
dispayers for Windows.  I'm looking for a board which allows you to
view TV(cable, inputs such as camcorders and VCR's, etc.) without
an additional tuner.  I thought I had found it with Aview's
Desktop TV, but it seems that you cannot run it within a window,
only full screen.  The cost is also important.  I can't afford
more than $400 - hell, I can't even afford that!  Haupage puts out
something called Win-TV which I have not been able to determine 
whether it requires a separate tuner.  Also, I have only seen one
mail-order company advertizing it - for $450, which is not that much
less than it's list price ($500).  Finally, there was a small piece
in this month's Computer Shopper about a product by New Media
Graphics called "Watch-it."  The article didn't state clearly whether
it required an additional tuner, but seemed to imply that it didn't.
Unfortunately, though I've seen a few of New Media Graphics'
products advertized by various mail-order companies (such as
"Super TV Windows") which cost way over my budget, I have not seen
this "Watchit" in ANY ad.
There's another feature that I would enjoy having, though could live
without: the ability to capture images to graphics files.

My main questions is this:  does anyone reading this have more thorough
information on the choices I have?  Also, does anyone happen to have
any contact information for New Media Graphics?  Thanks!


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|Levi Wallach                           lw2c@faraday.clas.virginia.edu|
|University of Virginia                                               |
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Re: TV Windows
#70
Author: Galen Raben
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 20:48
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Levi,
Information on Windows-TV cards is a bit hard to come by, I've been trying
for awhile now (without much success)...  Here's what little I have on the
Hauppage card, yes it has a built-in 122 ch tuner, most the others I've heard
of the tuner is an add-on (including VideoBlaster, CompuAdd's card, earlier
New Media Graphics cards- dunno anything about the newer one(s)).

Last I saw Win-TV was available for $439 from PC Connection (1-800-800-5555
or fax 1-603-446-7791)...

My compilation of Hauppage Win-TV's features (so far...)

Video Acquisition: Switchable between 3 NTSC/PAL sources w/optional source 
                   adapter kit.  Built-in 122 ch cable-ready tuner
Inputs: 2 video (w/optional source adapter kit), audio inputs????
Outputs: Stereo audio output.  Others????

Image Manipulation: Freeze,Zoom, Scale, Dragging.
                    Adjust Color, Contrast, Brightness, RGB.
Audio: ????
       Software control of volume, balance, treble, and bass.
Image Acquisition: 8bit-24bit TIFF, BMP, TGA, MMP formats
I/O Port Memory accessing: ????
Video display memory: ????
System requirements: ????

Has anyone got one?  Would appreciate an e-mail of your impressions!!!
- Galen -
galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com
Re: TV Windows
#80
Author: Levi Wallach
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 14:52
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In article <17270017@hpgrla.gr.hp.com> galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Galen Raben) writes:
>Levi,
>Information on Windows-TV cards is a bit hard to come by, I've been trying
>for awhile now (without much success)...  Here's what little I have on the
>Hauppage card, yes it has a built-in 122 ch tuner, most the others I've heard
>of the tuner is an add-on (including VideoBlaster, CompuAdd's card, earlier
>New Media Graphics cards- dunno anything about the newer one(s)).
[stuff deleted]

I did a good deal of research on this and you're right - the info is hard to
come by.  Most of the info came from helpful netters who own of the cards. I
finally settled on Desktop TV.  It doesn't have nearly as many features as
Win-TV, but was ironically the best choice.  It will run in Windows, but only
in full screen, you can listen to the audio while not viewing it and when you
hear something interesting can just click on an app button and view the screen.
You can control volume, channel, favorite channels, last channel, brightness,
contrast, muting, hue, color, and I believe that's all, either while you're
viewing it full screen, or while you're just in Windows and listening to it.
There's no video capture, just a mono audio output (it comes with a small
speaker), and one video input - for cable, antenna, VCR, etc.  So why did I
opt for this?  Well of the other boards that I looked at there were various
problems.  The Video Blaster requires an additional tuner, New Media Graphics'
"Watchit" will only run in Windows at 640x480, which is useless to me.
Haupage's card came the closest.  It's supposed to run in all Windows
resolution modes.  However, it, along with the others (except for Desktop
TV) requires your VGA card to have a feature connecter.  Aparently most do,
but the ATI Graphics Ultras (bothe the old ones and new ones) don't.  In
addition, a netter who said he was the "not very happy owner of a Win-TV,"
told me that with his ATI Graphics Vantage, Win-TV could not handle his
card's 87hz refresh rate in 800x600 or 1024x768 - thus negating your ability
to use it with (or upgrade any time in the future to) a fast video card.
Aside from all of this, Desktop TV was one of the most reasonable in price -
I paid $250 at Micro Warehouse.  Hope this helps.


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|Levi Wallach                           lw2c@faraday.clas.virginia.edu|
|University of Virginia                                               |
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Re: TV Windows
#703
Author: James King
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 13:24
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In article <17270017@hpgrla.gr.hp.com> galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Galen Raben) writes:
>From: galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Galen Raben)
>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1992 20:48:59 GMT
>Subject: Re: TV Windows
>Levi,
>Information on Windows-TV cards is a bit hard to come by, I've been trying
>for awhile now (without much success)...  Here's what little I have on the
>Hauppage card, yes it has a built-in 122 ch tuner, most the others I've heard
>of the tuner is an add-on (including VideoBlaster, CompuAdd's card, earlier
>New Media Graphics cards- dunno anything about the newer one(s)).
>
>Last I saw Win-TV was available for $439 from PC Connection (1-800-800-5555
>or fax 1-603-446-7791)...
>
>My compilation of Hauppage Win-TV's features (so far...)
>
>Video Acquisition: Switchable between 3 NTSC/PAL sources w/optional source 
>                   adapter kit.  Built-in 122 ch cable-ready tuner
>Inputs: 2 video (w/optional source adapter kit), audio inputs????
>Outputs: Stereo audio output.  Others????
>
>Image Manipulation: Freeze,Zoom, Scale, Dragging.
>                    Adjust Color, Contrast, Brightness, RGB.
>Audio: ????
>       Software control of volume, balance, treble, and bass.
>Image Acquisition: 8bit-24bit TIFF, BMP, TGA, MMP formats
>I/O Port Memory accessing: ????
>Video display memory: ????
>System requirements: ????
>
>Has anyone got one?  Would appreciate an e-mail of your impressions!!!
>- Galen -
>galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com

I just read in the Nov. 2, 1992 issue of InfoWorld on page 32 about WatchIt 
TV.  This allows a scalable tv window; has hookups for antenna, cable, 
VCR, and video camera; allows video capture; and runs under Windows 3.0 
or later.  This is made by  NEw Media Graphics and their number is 508-663-
0666.
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