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Re: Membership fee for DECUS?

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From: Paul Repacholi
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 11:03
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In article <hdtodd.2.714835604@wccnet.wcc.wesleyan.edu>, hdtodd@wccnet.wcc.wesleyan.edu (H. D. Todd) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.140249.3686@spcvxb.spc.edu> killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu 
> 	(Jeff Killeen) writes:
>>Subject: Re: Membership fee for DECUS?
...

I don't have the details at hand, so don't take it to literaly.

> 
> 	The nominal membership of DECUS/US is about 50K.  The real 
> membership is about 25-30K.  The audits we implemented (six years ago or so) 
> were never fully implemented to trim the mailing list as we had intended.  
> If a major goal is to save mailing costs and trees, DECUS could just 
> eliminate the mailing-list names of inactive members -- and tighten the 
> definition of "inactive".  (I'd now fall into that category, I think.)
> 
The .AU audit is done every few years. Members are posted an audit form to
complete and post back in a post paid envelope. This allows for change in SIGs
etc as well. No return, off the lists. Takes 2 min to do.

> 	Customers pay for services, and the fees include overhead for DECUS 
> operations.  So they pay for "membership" through purchases.  No purchases, 
> no membership (i.e., they get trimmed from the list after a couple of 
> years of inactivity).  Or, no newsletter/library contributions, they get 
> trimmed (i.e., they are neither contributing nor using DECUS resources, so 
> they are probably uninterested; reinstate upon request).
> 
different members will have differnt wants/needs, and this will result in
different 'visibility'.

...

> 	If the problem is wasted trees and money for mailings that don't 
> interest people, solve that problem.  If the problem is an uninformed 
> electorate, solve that problem.  I don't think DECUS needs membership fees 
> to solve either problem.  It does need a consistent and coherent strategy 
> for funding, for representation, and for effective management.  Membership 
> fees might be part of the solution for the first and last, but not for the 
> representation issue.
> 

We have added 'Corporate Membership' to .AU Decus. This gives the CM the Vax SIG
tapes and a few other things on one bill, hence easier to get through the bean
counters. No vote. they can send 5 nominees to symposia etc. About $1000 AU
per year.

~Paul
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