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Article #486FYI - From DECUServe
From: Jeff Killeen Exec Committee
Date: Thu, 02 May 1991 04:05
Date: Thu, 02 May 1991 04:05
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Note 340.138 The DECUS reorganization 138 of 145
EISNER::STONE_L "Larry Stone" 22 lines 1-MAY-1991 11:35
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I am a firm believer in the "if it's not broke, don't fix it"
philosophy. Accordingly, it is up to the PRO side to convince me that
we have a situation that needs changing (I'll admit though, that many
people will probably vote YES because that is what the Board
recommends). Frankly, I am totally unconvinced there is a problem.
Some PRO comments want us to think the CON people want to
disenfranchise the rest of us. 1) I don't see support for this belief
and 2) nobody ever said DECUS is supposed to be a governement-like
democracy. Yes we can vote for some members of leadership but whether I
can vote for all of them isn't that important. I vote with my
membership - if DECUS isn't doing the job for me, I'll leave and I see
no reason to leave at this time.
What I see going on here is a problem I think a lot of volunteer
organizations have - trying to organize it like a for profit
corporation. Having served on the Board of a condominium homeowner's
association, I have learned the people you most have to keep happy are
your volunteers. So let's not worry about disenranchising the
membership, worry about disenfranchising the volunteers. Without them,
there is no DECUS and then there are no members which need to be
served.
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Note 340.139 The DECUS reorganization 139 of 145
EISNER::MAYTROTT "Laurie Maytrott, NLC/Southern RLC" 1 line 1-MAY-1991 14:29
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As a DECUS member (Regional hat off, NLC hat off), I am voting NO.
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Note 340.140 The DECUS reorganization 140 of 145
EISNER::BADDORF "Deb Baddorf" 7 lines 1-MAY-1991 14:40
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> worry about disenfranchising the volunteers. Without them,
> there is no DECUS and then there are no members which need to be
> served.
I agree. And since most of the volunteers which I can see here
(i.e. ones who speak and thus contribute to what I get from DECUServe)
are CON, I'll cast my vote with them. They are doing the work for me.
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Note 340.141 The DECUS reorganization 141 of 145
EISNER::ZIMMERMAN "Comp-U-Card" 12 lines 1-MAY-1991 14:45
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It seems to me that ADL has little understanding of a volunteer
organization. The proposal for reorganization resembles a business
restructuring more than one related to a group of volunteers. I have
been involved in a variety of groups ranging from local community
groups to DECUS to Governmental entities to businesses. In my
experience the structure which works the best for large volunteer
groups like DECUS is more akin to an executive-legislative-judicial
than a board of directors with ultimate power save that of electing
it's members.
Because of this fundemental difference in philosophy I will vote no (if
I ever get my ballot).
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