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Re: How DECUS does business (Was Re: EXECUTION of DECUS Standards)

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From: dsroberts
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:33
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In article <18DEC199210451163@rover.uchicago.edu>, frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger) writes:
> 	BINGO Clyde hit the nail on the head. ('cept he left out a couple
> 	of people I know who don't like any of the above.) You can't please
> 	'em all. Example. Should an electronic version of the newsletter be:
> 
> 	A/ Posted to USENET
> 	B/ A NOTES stream on DECUServe
> 	C/ A NOTES stream on DCS
> 	D/ E-mailed automagically to subscribers every month
> 	E/ Available via anonymous FTP from DECUS.ORG

Actually the problem I see, and it occurs every time discussions like this come
up, is that the ONLY acceptable solutions (be it newsletters or leadership
communication or whatever) are those that satisfy everybody.  This is an
attitude problem on the part of leadership.  You're asking the wrong question
here, Frank.  The question should be why don't we provide what we can now with
the resources we have available and provide more as we can?

The fact is that IS NO one solution.  DECUS cannot economically finance a
be-all solution.  Leadership seems to think that DECUS MUST do all or nothing. 
The newsletters are a good example of this.  Joel has offered DECUS an
opportunity to satisfy SOME users with an electronic distribution.  But since
there are some users who cannot take advantage of this, leadership stonewalls
providing this solution.

I see this happening in DCS discussions over and over again.  And any time
something new is suggested that's low cost, it often gets shot down for this
very non-reason.

IF it can be done at little or no cost, but it satisfies the needs for SOME
DECUS members, why not do it?  Why should the fact that this solution doesn't
address some OTHER members needs stop this solution from being implemented?

DCS to NEWS is another example of this.  This can be done only for the cost of
running a newserver on either DCS or DECUServe.  But DECUS leadership has
consistantly stonewalled every suggestion to do this.  Simply because it
doesn't address the needs of those without news.

This is stupid, o leaders.
-- 
   Don Roberts                   Internet:  dsroberts@beckman.com
   Beckman Instruments, Inc.     Phone:     714/961-3029
   2500 Harbor Bl. Mailstop X-12 FAX:       714/961-3351
   Fullerton, CA  92634          Disclaimer:  Blame me, not Beckman.
   "Abortion isn't a 'choice', it's the slaughter of the innocent"
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From: dsroberts@beckman.com
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Subject: Re: How DECUS does business (Was Re: EXECUTION of DECUS Standards)
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Date: 18 Dec 92 11:33:10 PDT
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