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2 total messages Started by Jim Sims Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:04
Re: Danger Will Robinson! New Registration format for Symp
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Author: Jim Sims
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:04
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In <29AUG199206011793@spades.aces.com> gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:

>In article <1992Aug28.184628.3849@news.arc.nasa.gov>, mcmahon@tgv.com writes...
># 
>#I also pointed out that the DECUS cities (Atlanta, New Orleans,
>#Anaheim, Las Vegas, San Francisco) traditionally were expensive,
>#and suggested that cheaper alternatives be sought.  

>Hear Hear!  Let's form a campaign to move DECUS symposiums to
>cheaper cities.  Call it, say... DECUS Tucson '95!!!


 C'mon, guys. Surely you've read in numerous forums the reason we go to
 these cities.

 (1) We need rooms that vary in size from 20-1500 persons. 2-3 of the
 latter, a dozen or so of the former and a bunch in the 100-300 size range.

 (2) We need to feed 5-7000 people in 2 hours for lunch and breakfast.

 (3) We need hotel space that we can bus people to/from the convention
 center with less than 15 min lag time. (were you in Dallas? 45 min rides
 were the norm...)


 These are the *major* constraints. Tell me which ones you'll give up and
 we can bring DECUS to some other cities.

 And, if you look around and are a bit creative, hotels are *not* that
 expensive. I have been attending on my own $$ lately, sharing a 2-brm
 suite with 3 other peoploe typically drops you into the $30/nite range
 rather than the $60-100 range....

 sims@starbase.mitre.org                               The MITRE Corporation
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Re: Danger Will Robinson! New Registration format for Symp
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Author: John 'Fast-Eddie/FuzzFace' McMah...
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:00
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In article <sims.715280682@starbase>, sims@magellan.mitre.org (Jim Sims) writes:
= C'mon, guys. Surely you've read in numerous forums the reason we go to
= these cities.

(list of very good reasons deleted)

Let's see if we can get this back on the right track.  I'm trying to
echo the concerns I hear from other members about "why" people can't
go to Symposium.  I realize it's a complex issue.

I would like to think that people would be willing to exchange a
reasonable decrease in price for a longer lag time on the bus and
reduced (not eliminated) meal service.

Opinion: It seems to me that in Atlanta we already brush up
against the 15 minute limit during rush hour.  

I can't speak for function space, my guess is that the limiting factor 
is the big rooms.  And those do fill up during the Symposium.  So I
doubt a cut there would be useful.

I heard the Symposium Committee polled attendees about this a while ago,
what was the results of the poll ? 

= And, if you look around and are a bit creative, hotels are *not* that
= expensive. I have been attending on my own $$ lately, sharing a 2-brm
= suite with 3 other peoploe typically drops you into the $30/nite range
= rather than the $60-100 range....

I agree.  At Atlanta, I had three in my hotel room.  It worked out 
pretty well.  Perhaps, I'll do something similar for Las Vegas.

Finding housing bargains is a lot easier if they are suggested
by official publications, or you have some DECUS experience.
If you are a newcomer, you  are likely to use the housing bureau
(pricey) since it's the limit of the housing information available.

A minus of some housing bargains is that you may end up off
the bus routes.  This can be an annoyance in some cities. 

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