Thread View: comp.org.sug
1 messages
1 total messages
Started by "Michael Willett"
Fri, 02 Oct 1992 18:54
Re: RAID 7 systems for Sun workstations versus earlier RAID 5
Author: "Michael Willett"
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 18:54
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 18:54
66 lines
4279 bytes
4279 bytes
Regarding the questions and comments about RAID 7 for Sun versus the earlier RAID 4 and 5, all I know is what I read from the Storage Computer RAID 7 brochure which reads as follows: "Question. I am confused. For transaction processing, how can a RAID 7 deliver higher performance than the operation of a RAID 5?" "Answer. One reason mentioned earlier is that RAID 7 will always have a higher average number of concurrent events being processed than a RAID 5 with the same number of drives. Another reason is a basic flaw in the RAID 5 architecture. By rotating parity and interleaving these parity sectors or blocks with the data, RAID 5 increases the average data access time for every read and write, because it has to seek across more cylinders for the same data. If a RAID 7 has a data access time equal to 1, then a RAID 5 with the exact same drive will need 1+(1/N) time. Granted that this penalty declines with more drives in the array, but it never goes away. RAID 5 will always have to seek data across more cylinders; that always takes more time, and therefore RAID 5 will always be slower than a basic RAID 7. Also the StorComp Operating System speeds up transaction processing by the sophisticated management of the Principle of Locality." Generally speaking, it would seem to be important to have the key RAID 7 executives themselves provide detailed information on such RAID 7 questions via the network, so we can get the full story. It would be interesting if we could get long term RAID 7 Sun strategy information from them also. As far as questions about Japanese investment in the firm go, I have zero information on this topic. Logical candidates would seem to be Fujitsu, Hitachi, and Toshiba, I suppose. Currently, the firm is private so it is not possible to buy shares on the US or Japanese exchanges. -------------------------------- Regarding John Scoggin's request for information on RAID systems for VINES, Storage Computer of Nashua, N.H. is currently showing its new high performance SCSI-RAID 7 disk array platforms at the September Banyan Users Meeting. They work equally well with NetWare, IBM systems, workstations like SGI's, Sun's and the RS/6000, the VAX, etc. Standards-based, RAID 7 is designed for enterprise-wide computing and overcomes performance limitations of earlier RAID architectures, providing a "real world sustained application performance improvement of 200% to 400%" and dropping the cost of storage to 16 cents/MB. Their brochures say they can "mix and match" up to 48 SCSI commodity (3.5 or 5.25 inch) drives, up to 150 GB. The RAID 7 disk array platforms come with an embedded operating system and up to 12 SCSI-2 based host interfaces. Besides servers, Storage Computer's RAID 7 disk array platforms can connect to workstations and midrange systems in addition to IBM's. Multiple CPUs can be attached to same disk array platform. The RAID 7 platforms come with up to 256 MB of cache, eliminating any reason for using performance-damaging CPU main memory disk RAM. The drives are "hot plugable" for uninterrupted, transparent operation, with a hot standby drive automatically replacing a failed drive. There was a lot of activity yesterday at the Storage Computer RAID 7 booth at the Banyan show as I walked by. They were demoing what happens if a drive goes down, showing the backup drive taking over. For further information on Storage Computer's RAID 7 for various systems, the key contact is indicated to be John O'Brien, Director of Technical Services, at Tel. 603-880-3005 or FAX 603-889-7232. He's the "guru" of RAID 7 and a leading RAID industry figure. He has a lot of published articles on the topic and you might ask them for copies. Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
Thread Navigation
This is a paginated view of messages in the thread with full content displayed inline.
Messages are displayed in chronological order, with the original post highlighted in green.
Use pagination controls to navigate through all messages in large threads.
Back to All Threads