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Re: System Administration, Networking, and Security (SANS II)

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From: Bryan McDonald
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:13
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In article <1jn79pINN4uh@network.ucsd.edu> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:
>This is the first I have heard of SANS (but then, I haven't been watching
>all that closely either).  I am aware there is also SAGE and LISA.  It
>seems to me that these three groups tend to cover the same area with some
>small variations.  I have three questions:
>
>1) What is the relationship between SANS, SAGE and LISA?
>(both organizationally and in areas covered)
>
>2) In what ways are they not related? 
>
>3) Assuming you were limited to being involved with only one of the above
>groups; how would you decide which one to belong to?

LISA is the System Administration conference for USENIX. SAGE is the
System Adminstrators' Guild, a STG (Special Technical Group) of USENIX.
SAGE's mission is to advance/promote the profession of systems' adminstration,
looking at and beyond the scope of a technical conference like LISA to
issues like careers, management, education, certification, ethics, etc.
SAGE will probably be very involved in attempting to maintain the high
quality of the LISA conferences and any other efforts of a similar nature.

SANS (System Adminstration, Networking, and Security) is the renamed
World Conference on System Administration and Security
from last July.  It is principly sponsored by FedUNIX, a Washington, D.C.,
based group.

SAGE is also co-sponsoring SANS this year, working with the World Conference
group to promote cooperation and interchange between their group and USENIX,
and to bring together two groups aiming at different segments of the
system adminstration profession.

I went to both conferences last year, and was a member of the interim board
of SAGE.  Each has its benefits.  SAGE is not a conference, but an
ongoing support effort, aimed at improving our field as it begins to expand 
quickly.  I think it is an excellent effort and would encourage anyone to join.
SANS and LISA are differnet on focus and other mundane things, like time
and location, and which one you attend, if you can only attend one, depends
a lot on what you want out of the conference.

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Bryan McDonald                   |   Computer, Hardware, And Operations Support
bigmac@erg.sri.com               |                     CHAOS
Postmaster-Systems Administrator |            ITAD - SRI International
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Subject: Re: System Administration, Networking, and Security (SANS II)
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