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swilli@corp.cssi.net (Sean Williams) writes:

>/usr/lib/smail/routers that will correct this with the right config 
>in it.  The error is :

>Xdefer: <address> reason: <ERR_127> router uucp_neighbors :
>command '/usr/bin/uuname' returned exit status EX_32256

>I know calling uuname is a bug in SMAIL and a routers file will fix
>this but I don't know wht to put in it.

>What do I need to put in /usr/lib/smail/routers to get these messages
>delivered?  Thanks for the help.

Calling uuname is not a bug, you just have a uucp router in your routers 
file. Or is it that smail allways uses that router even if you comment it out
in the routers ? I don't remeber.

The easiest way out is to install uucp, then smail will call uuname to
find out that the mail is not going to one of your uucp_neighbours and 
will try the next router. 

Even a better solution is to disable all routers and use a smart_host instead.
In that way you avoid the problems with smail not looking up MX records.

Mihail Iotov

Sean Williams (swilli@corp.cssi.net) wrote:
: I have installed Linux v1.0 Slackware release for 24hr SLIP access
: into ClarkNet and SMTP for my Novell 3.11 LAN.  Everything works 
: great except some mail that is sent out through SMTP causes a 
: uucp_neighbors error.  I know there is a missing file called
: /usr/lib/smail/routers that will correct this with the right config 
: in it.  The error is :

: Xdefer: <address> reason: <ERR_127> router uucp_neighbors :
: command '/usr/bin/uuname' returned exit status EX_32256

: I know calling uuname is a bug in SMAIL and a routers file will fix
: this but I don't know wht to put in it.

Actually... I think the bug is from calling ferror() after the pipe
to uuname has been closed.  Look in comp.os.linux.help (?) for a similar
discussion (search for smail or my name).  Basically, you want to edit
smail*/src/routers/uuname.c and find where it closes the pipe to
uuname.  Below that you will see a call to ferror().  Move the ferror()
code above the close code and everything starts working. (For me at least.)

: What do I need to put in /usr/lib/smail/routers to get these messages
: delivered?  Thanks for the help.

: * Sean Williams (14% CNE)                     | swilli@corp.cssi.net *
: * Corporate Information Systems Administrator |                      *
: * Communications & Systems Specialists, Inc.  | phone: (410)290-9500 *
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Later,
J

Did you really want uucp_neighbors?  How about removing the offending
router?

What is the latest version os smail and where can I ftp it from ? 

I have 3.1.28.1 #5, Nov 93 and it is broken. It inserts extraneous 
linefeeds and tabs making the spool file looking like follows:

>From root Thu Sep 15 18:08:36 1994
>Return-Path: <root>
>Received:  
>	by csamsi_ppp.clark.net  
>		(Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #5)
	 
>	id m0qlOyp-0004vrC; Thu, 15 Sep 94 18:08 EDT
>Message-Id: <m0qlOyp-0004vrC@csamsi_ppp.clark.net>

While Linux's pine (3.89) can read it just fine, other email readers are 
confused like hell.

Thanks, Caesar.

In article <1994Sep14.042231.5409@tragus.atl.ga.us> jcej@tragus.atl.ga.us 
(James CE Johnson) writes:

>Actually... I think the bug is from calling ferror() after the pipe
>to uuname has been closed.  Look in comp.os.linux.help (?) for a similar
>discussion (search for smail or my name).  Basically, you want to edit
>smail*/src/routers/uuname.c and find where it closes the pipe to
>uuname.  Below that you will see a call to ferror().  Move the ferror()
>code above the close code and everything starts working. (For me at least.)

Caesar M Samsi (csamsi@clark.net) wrote:
: What is the latest version os smail and where can I ftp it from ? 

: I have 3.1.28.1 #5, Nov 93 and it is broken. It inserts extraneous 
: linefeeds and tabs making the spool file looking like follows:

You would be better off with sendmail v8.
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Mihail S. Iotov (iotov@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:

: The easiest way out is to install uucp, then smail will call uuname to
: find out that the mail is not going to one of your uucp_neighbours and 
: will try the next router. 

: Even a better solution is to disable all routers and use a smart_host instead.
: In that way you avoid the problems with smail not looking up MX records.

An even better solution still os go and get sendmail 8.6. 
Why have everything forward off through a smart host when it can get
to its destination directly anyway? (OK, I know smail can be
configured... but it's a pain to get it to send out un-munged headers
and such anyway...)

... why get someone else to be smart for you when you can be smart
yourself? :-)

Phil (postmaster of such a smart-host who keeps getting bouncemail from
the Linux boxes using it as a smart-host because users get things wrong! :)
--
Phil Homewood                           phil@rivendell.apana.org.au
APANA Brisbane Regional Co-Ordinator    brisbane@apana.org.au
      "Lightning flash and everything is sharp and clear"

herbert@greathan.apana.org.au (Herbert Xu) writes:

>Caesar M Samsi (csamsi@clark.net) wrote:
>: What is the latest version os smail and where can I ftp it from ? 

>: I have 3.1.28.1 #5, Nov 93 and it is broken. It inserts extraneous 
>: linefeeds and tabs making the spool file looking like follows:

>You would be better off with sendmail v8.

Well I got smail with MX support going pretty easily, but I have the uucp
functionality turned off (mainly because I don't use uucp at all and I don't
want all the headers munged).  I had some problems in the beginning but
after that it worked like a charm.

Phil Homewood (phil@rivendell.apana.org.au) wrote:
: Mihail S. Iotov (iotov@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:

: : The easiest way out is to install uucp, then smail will call uuname to
: : find out that the mail is not going to one of your uucp_neighbours and 


: An even better solution still os go and get sendmail 8.6. 
: Why have everything forward off through a smart host when it can get
: to its destination directly anyway? (OK, I know smail can be
: configured... but it's a pain to get it to send out un-munged headers
: and such anyway...)

Any anyone direct me to sendmail 8.6 ?

Thanks.

[Why is this going to half a dozen newsgroups?]

In article <csamsi.130.0013EF40@clark.net>, csamsi@clark.net (Caesar M
Samsi) wrote:

>I have 3.1.28.1 #5, Nov 93 and it is broken. It inserts extraneous 
>linefeeds and tabs making the spool file looking like follows:
>
>>From root Thu Sep 15 18:08:36 1994
>>Return-Path: <root>
>>Received:  
>>       by csamsi_ppp.clark.net  
>>               (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #5)
>         
>>       id m0qlOyp-0004vrC; Thu, 15 Sep 94 18:08 EDT
>>Message-Id: <m0qlOyp-0004vrC@csamsi_ppp.clark.net>

I hit this, it's actually a trivial fix.  The config file that specifies
this stuff (I forget which SMAIL file it is, but you can probably find it,
I did :-) has code like this:

  "Received: " \
  "by $blah " \

etc.  The problem is that the \ is suppose to be quoting and removing the
newline.  But for reasons unknown, there is a space in the file after the
\ and before the newline character, so the \ quote the space instead and
the newline is inserted into the data.  Deleting the space after the \
fixes the problem.
   Peter.
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Herbert,

Can you post or send your config, routers, forward, transports, directors 
files for us the un-initiated ? Hmm, better just send it to me directly.

I got smtp working with smart-host, but direct smtp with MX records still 
eludes me.

Thanks, Caesar.

In article <35fog0$ld1@er4.rutgers.edu> sheela@er4.rutgers.edu (Isis 
Leslie) writes:

>herbert@greathan.apana.org.au (Herbert Xu) writes:

>Well I got smail with MX support going pretty easily, but I have the uucp
>functionality turned off (mainly because I don't use uucp at all and I don't
>want all the headers munged).  I had some problems in the beginning but
>after that it worked like a charm.

Caesar M Samsi (csamsi@clark.net) wrote:
: I got smtp working with smart-host, but direct smtp with MX records still 
: eludes me.

the smail that came with slackware 2.0 had to be recompiled here to get it
to look up MX records.  Works great now.

 -smj