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Re: P4 vs Athlon for Linux latexing, is gcc-2.95 responsible?

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From: David E. Konerding
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:05
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In article <x5u1o243mw.fsf@tupik.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup wrote:
> fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@garden.net (George Macdonald) writes:
> 
>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 09:30:49 GMT, "Robert Myers" <rmyers1400@attbi.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >Without SSE2, which requires that loops be vectorized, a 1.7GHz P2
>> >is a very weak foating point performer, as many have noted, and as
>> >you have confirmed for yourself.  If I take naive code compiled
>> >with icc, my overclocked Celeron running at 1.5MHz will beat a
>> >1.7GHz P4 every time.
>> 
>> Are you sure about this?  I thought the idea with P4's SSE2 was that
>> for scalar calcs you have addressable registers (no stack) and
>> therefore no need of the FXCH instructions for stack swaps and it
>> runs faster than the old x87 FPU.  I've no experience yet but that's
>> how I read things.
> 
> The way "how [you] read things" can be improved upon.  For an
> example, tell us how you read the first two words of the paragraph
> you quoted above.

You can't just take the first two words of the quoted paragraph, because
the sentence itself is factually incorrect:

"Without SSE2, which requires that loops be vectorized..."

SSE2 can be used as a scalar unit, or as a vector unit.  There is some
question of whether or not it's a win when used as a scalar unit--
although George does give a suggestion why it could be.

Dave
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Subject: Re: P4  vs Athlon for Linux latexing, is gcc-2.95 responsible?
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