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Glenn T. Jayaputera wrote:
> 
> I am tossing to upgrade my 1.2.13 to become ELF-aware or not.
> Should I upgrade now or wait until 1.3 is released??

1.3.* is out, has been for a while

> Is it easy to upgrade to ELF?
no

>                               dangerous?
yes

>                                           Do I have to setup everything again?
if your upgrade is successful, you hopefully won't have to re-setup much

> I am a bit reluctant here because it took me quite a while last time to set it up
> and I have forgotten what i have done...

I used the ELF-howto to upgrade, then used that for a few weeks before I realized I'd
just have to give up and reinstall a full ELF system.  Not that my system wasn't usable,
just that maintaining two sets of libraries was difficult.

My suggestion to you is back up all your important data and configuration files and
make a clean install of a complete ELF system.

> 
> thanks for your comment..
> glenn tesla

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In <3173EF99.41C67EA6@sec.sel.sony.com> Glenn Lamb <glenn@sec.sel.sony.com> writes:

>Glenn T. Jayaputera wrote:
>> 
>> I am tossing to upgrade my 1.2.13 to become ELF-aware or not.
>> Should I upgrade now or wait until 1.3 is released??

>1.3.* is out, has been for a while

Yeah, we're up to 1.3.90 already!

The best way to do it is to back everything up (don't forget /etc/passwd
and /var/X11R6/lib/XF86Config etc.), wipe the partitions and install
an ELF distribution like Slackware 3.0 which includes gcc-2.7.0, which 
can "do ELF". The kernel supplied is 1.2.13-elf.

I did this, and have since moved up to 1.3.89 (1.3.90 tomorrow!) without
changing anything else (except procps-0.97 to 0.99 and installing 
modules-1.3.57).

Go for it. 

Mark.

Glenn Lamb <glenn@sec.sel.sony.com> writes:

>Glenn T. Jayaputera wrote:
>> 
>> I am tossing to upgrade my 1.2.13 to become ELF-aware or not.
>> Should I upgrade now or wait until 1.3 is released??


>> Is it easy to upgrade to ELF?
>no

 It wasnt hard on my 1.3 system . Took 5 minutes. On a system that I do
not have any compilers on it took less time.

>>                               dangerous?
>yes

 Only if you stuff installing the new dual format ld.so support. Its 
just as dangerous as upgrading libc.so on a live system.

>if your upgrade is successful, you hopefully won't have to re-setup much

 I didnt reinstall anything other than the libraries, only slowly as
I get new applications or upgrade old ones are things converting to ELF,
most of my systems are running, quite happly a.out binaries.


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In article <4l033i$jcp@budgie.apana.org.au> gtj@budgie.apana.org.au (Glenn T. Jayaputera) writes:
>I am tossing to upgrade my 1.2.13 to become ELF-aware or not.
>Should I upgrade now or wait until 1.3 is released??

Huh? 1.3 was released at the same time as 1.2!  Just as 1.1 was
released at the same time as 1.0.  There won't be any more 1.x
releases, the next releases will be 2.0 and 2.1.  Since version 1 was
declared the differnce is that x.odd releases are for people who feel
comforatable debugging kernels and x.even releases are for other
people.

So the question is: "Do *you* feel comfortable debugging kernels?"

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> >                               dangerous?
 Y     Y  EEEEEEE   SSSSS
  Y   Y   E        S     S
   Y Y    E        S
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    Y     E              S
    Y     E        S     S
    Y     EEEEEEE   SSSSS   But worth it...instal a clean new ELF system
if you can!