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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:14:46 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
> news:eClxAUGEIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Stephan Rose wrote:
>>> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:04:28 -0700, rodolfo.garcia44 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C:
>>>>> was lost.
>>>>>
>>>>> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my
>>>>> C: drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>>>>
>>>>> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>>>>
>>>>> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole
>>>>> hard drive without a single warning?
>>>>>
>>>>> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>>>>> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu
>>>>> erases whole hard drive without warning.
>>>>>
>>>>> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>>>>> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set
>>>>> as the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/32522/2001738602340396146_rs.jpg
>>>
>>> It says "Guided - Use entire disk".
>>>
>>> Now what particular part about "Use Entire Disk" is beyond your
>>> comprehension?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There's also an option to use free space. caver1
> 
> This issue is down to what the target market for Linux is. If it is to
> take over the desktop then it has to be targeted at the level of a moron
> so that almost anyone can install it without getting unfixable problems.
> This means you can't assume the user understands what a disk is.. after
> all a lot of people think the case is a CPU.

Then why does Windows ask about partitioning and formatting when doing an 
install?


> 
> This is Linux's biggest problem.. too many developers and users over
> estimate the knowledge of their target users. Until the developers sort
> out the installation routines Linux will not be mass market as it still
> relies on someone being able to download it and install it.

Hopefully more vendors, especially visible ones like Dell, will start 
shipping Linux pre-installed.


> Making it so that only ~5% of users can install it without problems
> stops the ~95% from using it.

How many people can properly install Windows?

> Linux developers haven't even worked out that users don't read manuals
> by the sound of it.

People don't read manuals when running any software, for the most part. 
They don't read them when setting up stereos and VCRs, either.

> 
> Having worked in the telecoms industry I can assure you that you can
> *never* underestimate how dumb users are (well at least a lot of them).


-- 
Rick