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Re: Ubuntu erased my whole hard drive

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From: dennis
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:25
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"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:02:16 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
>
>> "lee h" <noti@domain.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:MM7Ri.10622$lD6.5170@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>>> rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>>>>> lost.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> For the simplest Ubuntu install on a windows box, use Wubi (Windows
>>> Ubuntu Installer).
>>
>> Its a bit too late for that.
>> The lack of a suitable warning has made sure another potential Linux
>> user will stick with something else.
>> This is the problem with Linux .. it is written by geeks who have no
>> idea how simple it has to be for the mass market. Windows would have
>> warned the user at least twice before removing a Linux partition and
>> that would be after selecting the partition and saying delete.
>
> Oh come on Dennis...
>
> What part about "Guided - Use entire disk" is difficult to understand? I
> mean it frigging says "entire disk" right next to it!!!

Well that assumes the installer knows what a disk is to start with.
If they select manual then they get presented with even more problems.

> How can you blame the OS Installer if the user is incapable of reading
> the whole sentence?
>
> Also, the Ubuntu installer will show a list of partition / file system
> changes it makes to what drives and what partition that the user has to
> OK before actually doing it.
>
> So you can't even accidentally click continue and overwrite the system.
> You need to do so twice.

At no time does it actually tell the user that the data on their system will 
be lost if they proceed.
As I said before Linux expects the user to know too much.
It was written by geeks who either don't understand the target audience or 
don't expect Linux to be used by the masses.

> Also, how is this different from installing XP or Vista?
>
> Last time I checked, XP and Vista also give you just a list of drives /
> partitions and you just go pick one to install on, or you can manually
> configure the partitions. How is that any different? Except of course
> Vista or XP don't ask a second time just to make sure you didn't make a
> mistake. I suppose that is one difference.

Except that they will not remove the data from a partition without warning 
the user unlike what you state above.
Also if you were truthful you would admit that Vista and XP ask twice before 
removing a partition and tell the user that it may contain data that will be 
lost if they do. It even asks twice before it will format one.
I suggest you dig out you windows disks and try an install as you appear to 
have forgotten what it does. 
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