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Article #845Re: What happens when you didn't get enough sleep...
From: Chrisjoy
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:48
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:48
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On 6 Mai, 03:56, Jules <jules.richardsonn...@remove.this.gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 05 May 2009 19:16:58 -0400, Michael Black wrote: > > On Tue, 5 May 2009, Jules wrote: > > >> On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:21:03 -0700, UncleEnglish wrote: > >>> Funny! Yet, 5 or 6 years ago, one of my students left her disssertaion > >>> on a train, 70k words, 6 floppies on a train > > >> 70 thousand words and it needed 6 floppies? That's gotta be an MS format > >> ;-) > > > "Words" is the key thing, he's surely not talking about the size of > > storage. When counting Morse Code, one treated every five characters > > as a word, but in real life, likely the words vary in size, and likely > > for the worst. > > Yeah, I put a guesstimate on an average of 6 characters per word, but I'm > not sure if that's sane (plus I didn't count whitespace :-) > > > 70K * 5 is 350K, just under the size of a 5.25" single sided double > > density floppy. The Apple II would store something like 170K on a > > floppy. There was a period when there was no double density, so it > > could be less. The battery operated floppy drive for the old Radio > > Shack Model 100 used single sided disks, and would take only 100K. > > Sure - but not 5 or 6 years ago... > > > Maybe some of the disks were duplicate backups > > That would be my guess, so it was very much a tongue in cheek post - plus > it didn't say that all of those 6 floppies contained the doc, just that > it was that many left on the train... > > > but I can imagine if > > this was early enough, 70K words straddling more than one floppy even > > without the help of Microsoft. > > I'm not so sure; older wordprocessors were very efficient with their > storage, with very low overheads for formatting information (I used to > have a Diamond D5 dedicated WP machine, complete with 8" single-sided > drives) - it was pretty surprising how much text could be crammed onto a > disk. > > I think the bloat only started to creep in with the GUI-based WP's, to be > honest. (although it still beats me why someone can send me a Word doc > that's just a page or so of plain text, and it's several MB in size; it > must take real talent to make an app that bad) I just saved the plain text of your posting, including quotes, into Word 97/03 format and Word 2007 format and it turned out to be, respectively, 27 and 13Kbyte. I do understand one must feel the need to dupe MS, even with the use of lies, to feel at home in this group.
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