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Article #862Re: What happens when you didn't get enough sleep...
From: Jules
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 01:56
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 01:56
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On Tue, 05 May 2009 19:16:58 -0400, Michael Black wrote: > On Tue, 5 May 2009, Jules wrote: > >> On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:21:03 -0700, UncleEnglish wrote: >>> Funny! Yet, 5 or 6 years ago, one of my students left her disssertaion >>> on a train, 70k words, 6 floppies on a train >> >> 70 thousand words and it needed 6 floppies? That's gotta be an MS format >> ;-) >> > "Words" is the key thing, he's surely not talking about the size of > storage. When counting Morse Code, one treated every five characters > as a word, but in real life, likely the words vary in size, and likely > for the worst. Yeah, I put a guesstimate on an average of 6 characters per word, but I'm not sure if that's sane (plus I didn't count whitespace :-) > 70K * 5 is 350K, just under the size of a 5.25" single sided double > density floppy. The Apple II would store something like 170K on a > floppy. There was a period when there was no double density, so it > could be less. The battery operated floppy drive for the old Radio > Shack Model 100 used single sided disks, and would take only 100K. Sure - but not 5 or 6 years ago... > Maybe some of the disks were duplicate backups That would be my guess, so it was very much a tongue in cheek post - plus it didn't say that all of those 6 floppies contained the doc, just that it was that many left on the train... > but I can imagine if > this was early enough, 70K words straddling more than one floppy even > without the help of Microsoft. I'm not so sure; older wordprocessors were very efficient with their storage, with very low overheads for formatting information (I used to have a Diamond D5 dedicated WP machine, complete with 8" single-sided drives) - it was pretty surprising how much text could be crammed onto a disk. I think the bloat only started to creep in with the GUI-based WP's, to be honest. (although it still beats me why someone can send me a Word doc that's just a page or so of plain text, and it's several MB in size; it must take real talent to make an app that bad) cheers Jules
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