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dobey wrote:
> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message 
> news:D4A33D23-205D-4B94-B259-9450A8473E3E@microsoft.com...
>> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message 
>> news:eu2QUSEFIHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message 
>>>> news:uN%23NKlDFIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>> The same reason that GW Bush doesn't announce when he's NOT going to 
>>>>> bomb somebody, because then there's nothing to worry about, is there? 
>>>>> Are you know complaining that Linux doesn't constantly warn you when 
>>>>> nothing is wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> Christ almighty, what is wrong with this?
>>>> Its a poor analogy? Who knows what else is wrong with what you said?
>>>>
>>>>> You are saying that someone with your claimed experience cannot 
>>>>> understand a simple message like this one?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.tames.net/screenshot.jpg
>>>> So which of those partitions has data on that is going to be destroyed?
>>>> Answer: none or one or both or the ones not listed, take your pick they 
>>>> are all correct.
>>>
>>> There is no pleasing you. No matter what the answer you say but- "what 
>>> if?'
>>> You're shown that the warning is there. Then you ask why is it there.
>> You have not read what I wrote.
>>
>> With Ubuntu you get the same warning even if no data is going to be lost.
>> What this does is stop newbies from installing it as they are going to 
>> lose data (even though they aren't).
>> The experienced user will ignore the message as he knows it is talking 
>> rubbish when it says it is going to remove data and will delete his 
>> system.
>>
>> The messages are wrong!
>>
>> Its bad enough that they are cryptic but in the case of Ubuntu they are 
>> *wrong* they do not apply to what is actually going to happen.
>> Is that clear enough?
>>
>> If you read the posts you will even see where I posted what the messages 
>> said for the example where I selected use the entire disk and use the free 
>> space and they are the *same*.
> 
> It's up to the user to know what partitions are on what devices, so when the 
> installed gives the message that partition x will be formatted, the user 
> knows what was on that partition to start with.
> 
> The warning is a general warning, indicating to the user any change he has 
> made to a partition will result in the loss of any data on that drive.
> 
> You don't seem to be able to comprehend the messages in context. I can only 
> assume english is not your first language. 
> 
> 


Hehe, the simple fact is that even if the user should end up with a 
"Dual Boot" system (Which is unlikely but Dennis knows best of course) 
his "Data" has still been lost, in the sense that what he had originally 
  is no longer there. and without changing GRUB or something he probably 
won't be able to use it. Claiming that "Use entire disk" and "Use free 
space" are the same is simply lying, at least as far as my experience 
demonstrates, the result is the "Same" if you get to that point and 
cancel, it makes no changes, but if you understand what "Free Space" 
means then the results are not. As for the answers being "Cryptic" I 
don't see how anyone claiming Dennis' great experience and expertise on 
all things OS could possibly be fooled.

Yes a complete idiot could mangle their system, just as they could by 
not following the rather misleading "Start / Shutdown" procedure, or by 
pulling the plug or having ActiveX install a virus. You may have heard 
about the Lawyer's secretary who donated $1000s to a Nigerian 
"Businessman" with access to someone's bank account. Fact is though that 
most users (yes even just plain users) are not that stupid and those who 
are will break something whatever.

Prediction:- "If" Dennis is correct Linux will get all the smart users 
and Windows will get all the idiots, who have not yet broken their 
systems but will, over and over again.