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Article #687Re: Howto connect ISP non-ppp ?
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:23
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:23
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> > Clifford Kite wrote: > >> Telephone the ISP and ask whether a normal user login is allowed. > > > They only know which M$ cartoon to click on. > > :-} > --snip-- > I'm fairly sure this means you don't have a shell login/password user > account on the ISP host, just a PPP account and authentication is via > PAP or CHAP during PPP negotiations. It's very likely the menu only > appears when you don't start PPP right away, or the ISP host receives > a carriage-return. > True, I was not specifically given a 'shell login/password user account'. But his 'pre-ppp' login recognises me because if I give a dud name & password, it shows: ----------- CChecking authorization, Please wait... username:dog password: % Authentication failed. <-- because of dud ID & paswrd username:2nm4nx6x@za password: cas15-rba>? <-- replies to "?" because of recognised my ID & paswrd Exec commands: disable Turn off privileged commands enable Turn on privileged commands ... ------ end of extract of log > I suspect you have to work for the ISP to have shell login access > - again, that option has almost, if not entirely, disappeared for > ISP clients. > Yes, but I'm hoping that since the 'system' apparently recognises/accepts me, I can proceed to read my mail. I'm thinking very much ito old BBS thechnology. Perhaps inapropriately, and perhaps the mail-server is not 'there' at the site where I'm logged in, and I'd need ppp to access it. In which case the exercise is pointless. > The ISP that allowed shell login was small, used a BSD system and, as > I recall, seemed to have only two hosts. One was the both the client > PPP connection and administrative host; it allowed the login. I think > the other was the POP/SMTP mail server which was accessed from a shell > login connection with a user mail agent, just as is the case for a PPP > client at home. This was a rather long time ago (in Internet time). > > > It should added that the ISP with the menu was not the same as the > ISP that allowed shell logins - a distinction I should have made in > my previous response. > OK > > The only advice I can give is to give up attempting to by-pass PPP > and start trying to find an OS with PPP-capable networking that can > run on your i286 device. Login at the menu didn't work, and neither > did the telnet and rlogin attempts to access the mail server, so it's > very likely that some kind of network connection will be necessary to > retrieve mail. > Perhaps some one in the Novell group can tell me if/how I can access the mail server ? It seems pointless to me to use ppp if the mail-server is right there ayt the site ? > Clifford Kite Email: "echo xvgr_yvahk-ccc@ri1.arg|rot13" Thanks for the input. == Chris Glur. PS. here's some more of my log, which shows that the ISP obeys me somewhat:- ... cas15-rba>ppp <-- it responded to this Entering PPP mode. Async interface address is unnumbered (FastEthernet0) Your IP address is 0.0.0.0. MTU is 1500 bytes }#@!}!P} %}"}&} }*} } }#}$@#}%}&jZ__}'}"}(}"}1}$}%t}3} <--- OK !!
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