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3 total messages Started by Cln lgr Tue, 05 Mar 2002 12:38
Can you Apple Talk?
#473
Author: Cln lgr
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 12:38
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We have a small network. 2 iMacs, 2 G4, 1 IBM. some laptops (in and out)

If I added a Pentium based server, Could I load Linux on this and be able to
connect to it with all 5 machines? Mac and PC?

If so;
Which version of Linux could I use?
What option when installing should I look for?
We're using ethernet.
Could the Macs share files with the IBM?


Right now the Mac connect to the IBM via FTP and WarFTP.
One iMac is setup for dial-up and we share that 56k Line (Ya I know.... very
slow) BUT! I would like to put a modem and firewall on that server.

Anymore informaiton I will be glad to share.

Off topic, can 1 PC have more than one modem?

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Cln Lgr
Re: Can you Apple Talk?
#474
Author: Bob Hauck
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:10
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On Tue, 05 Mar 2002 12:38:09 GMT, Cln lgr <staying@hotmail.SPAMcom> wrote:

> We have a small network. 2 iMacs, 2 G4, 1 IBM. some laptops (in and out)
> 
> If I added a Pentium based server, Could I load Linux on this and be able to
> connect to it with all 5 machines? Mac and PC?

Yes.  Use samba for sharing with the pc and netatalk for the macs.


> One iMac is setup for dial-up and we share that 56k Line (Ya I know.... very
> slow) BUT! I would like to put a modem and firewall on that server.

No problem.


> Off topic, can 1 PC have more than one modem?

Yes.

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
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 -| http://www.haucks.org/
Re: Can you Apple Talk?
#475
Author: Rod Smith
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:24
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In article <R_2h8.9954$Ek1.1181403@news-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
	"Cln lgr" <staying@hotmail.SPAMcom> writes:
> We have a small network. 2 iMacs, 2 G4, 1 IBM. some laptops (in and out)
> 
> If I added a Pentium based server, Could I load Linux on this and be able to
> connect to it with all 5 machines? Mac and PC?

That depends on what you mean by "connect" and what protocols you've
got. There's a server called Netatalk that can run on Linux, which lets
the Linux box act as a server on an AppleTalk network. You can also run
Samba, which does the same for the SMB/CIFS protocols used by Windows
for its file and printer sharing. Thus, a Linux box can serve as a
common server for both platforms.

The problem comes in the opposite direction. If you want Linux to be
able to mount MacOS shares, that won't work -- at least, not with MacOS
Classic. Netatalk is a server package, not a client package (except for
a print client). To use Linux as a client to Apple servers, you'd need
to use some other protocol, like NFS (Linux/UNIX native) or SMB/CIFS.
Such packages do exist for MacOS Classic, but they're commercial,
AFAIK. One further twist: If you're using MacOS X, the equation
changes, because MacOS X is built on UNIX. I don't know offhand if it
ships with an NFS server, but I know that Samba can be made to run on
it, so if nothing else, you could use SMB/CIFS for a Mac server and
Linux clients.

> If so;
> Which version of Linux could I use?

Any will work. Their relative merits depend on your skill level, need
for support, etc. I've got a Web page on the subject at
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/, but it's a bit out of date for most
distributions. It's still accurate in broad outline, but some of the
details have changed.

> What option when installing should I look for?

It's not clear what you mean by this.

> We're using ethernet.

Good.

> Could the Macs share files with the IBM?

Yes. DAVE (http://www.thursby.com) is the commercial SMB/CIFS package
for MacOS Classic I mentioned earlier. It includes both client and
server components. I believe there are also AppleTalk packages for
Windows (including one that ships with some versions of Win2K), but I've
not looked into those. You could also use a client/server architecture
and put everything on a Linux box that functions as both an AppleTalk
and an SMB/CIFS server. It's even possible to set up Linux as an
SMB/CIFS client and then export that directory using AppleTalk, but that
adds an extra network transfer to every access, so it's not very
efficient.

> One iMac is setup for dial-up and we share that 56k Line (Ya I know.... very
> slow) BUT! I would like to put a modem and firewall on that server.

If you're asking if Linux can function as a dial-up gateway, it can.

> Anymore informaiton I will be glad to share.

Depending upon your needs, you may want to check out my book, _Linux:
Networking for Your Office_ (http://www.rodsbooks.com/network/). It
covers setting up Linux in a mixed-platform office environment for file
sharing, printer sharing, Internet gateway operation, and so on.

> Off topic, can 1 PC have more than one modem?

Yes. I've never tried creating multiple Internet connections using two
modems, but the hardware will certainly work.

-- 
Rod Smith, rodsmith@rodsbooks.com
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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