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You can keep the old harddisk without re-partitioning. However, you can 
use LILO instead of DM. After you install the root disk, you 
can use fdisk to change the partition configuration. It's easy and safe, 
quite straight forward. If you need to cut DOS partition, fips.exe is 
included in the CD-ROM of Linux Unleashed. Just check it out.

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On 13 Sep 1996 01:04:06 GMT, in article <01bba10f$3fa54e00$1cc5bd89@s951401>, Lawrence Cheung <ylcheung@cuhk.edu.hk> wrote:
>I have bought the book "Linux Unleashed" (Sams, 1996), but it tells you
>only how to install Linux using DOS. What's worse is that it says nothing
>about partitioning a Large EIDE hard disk. Currently I use Ontrack Disk
>Manager (DM) to overcome the DOS limitation of 504Mb. I have checked "Linux
>Large Disk mini-HOWTO". The Linux I've got supports Ontrack DM.
>Unfortunately it does not say exactly how I should proceed with the DM.
>Should I partition the 1.7 Gb using DM? Will that affect my data on Q 850?

You can partition the 1.7 GB drive using DM, but, unless you have a
really old version of DOS, there's really no point in doing so, as
DOS has already got over with the 504 MB limitation a long time ago.

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In article <DxpB3q.7M9@byron.net4.io.org>, acli@byron.net4.io.org says...

>>I have bought the book "Linux Unleashed" (Sams, 1996), but it tells you
>>only how to install Linux using DOS. What's worse is that it says nothing
>>about partitioning a Large EIDE hard disk. Currently I use Ontrack Disk
>>Manager (DM) to overcome the DOS limitation of 504Mb. I have checked "Linux
>>Large Disk mini-HOWTO". The Linux I've got supports Ontrack DM.
>>Unfortunately it does not say exactly how I should proceed with the DM.
>>Should I partition the 1.7 Gb using DM? Will that affect my data on Q 850?

>You can partition the 1.7 GB drive using DM, but, unless you have a
>really old version of DOS, there's really no point in doing so, as
>DOS has already got over with the 504 MB limitation a long time ago.

I came across such problem. What I have is an old 486dx33, 8Mb RAM and
a Seagate 2G hd with DM installed. After try several methods, I "try
to give up" by doing the fdisk in the Linux Slackware 3.1 rootdisk ---
color.gz (or may be in the bookdisk, anyway, from one of the two disks 
that you must insert during installation of Linux). At the fdisk 
prompt, using "n" to create 9 partitions, the first one is about 250M
for dos (I use the "t" command to change the partition type to DOS>32M
type, it works at least up to this moment!), the second one is about 500M
for Linux native, the third one is 30M for Linux Swap, other 250M partitions
also for DOS>32M types, although I have no Win95, I think I can install
one on these DOS>32M partitions later). And I have tried to resize the
other DOS partitions to 500M without any problems.

Now the Linux is installed with recognition of all the DOS>32M partitions,
each time I can boot from DOS and then using the LOADLIN utility to
enter Linux without any problem. Believe me or not, a 170M Conner Hd
even coexists with the Seagate 2G HD. Such Conner is /dev/hda1, Seagate
is /dev/hdb1,2......9. So actually I an boot the dos from the Conner. But
it should be OK if I removed the Conner, because I have bootable-formatted
my first DOS partition on the Seagate drive.

(By-the-way, I found that Conner can only be Master if living together
with Seagate HD, but who care?)

Hope this helps you
James

Ambrose Li wrote:
> 
> On 13 Sep 1996 01:04:06 GMT, in article <01bba10f$3fa54e00$1cc5bd89@s951401>, Lawrence Cheung 
<ylcheung@cuhk.edu.hk> wrote:
> >I have bought the book "Linux Unleashed" (Sams, 1996), but it tells you
> >only how to install Linux using DOS. What's worse is that it says nothing
> >about partitioning a Large EIDE hard disk. Currently I use Ontrack Disk
> >Manager (DM) to overcome the DOS limitation of 504Mb. I have checked "Linux
> >Large Disk mini-HOWTO". The Linux I've got supports Ontrack DM.
> >Unfortunately it does not say exactly how I should proceed with the DM.
> >Should I partition the 1.7 Gb using DM? Will that affect my data on Q 850?
> 
> You can partition the 1.7 GB drive using DM, but, unless you have a
> really old version of DOS, there's really no point in doing so, as
> DOS has already got over with the 504 MB limitation a long time ago.
> 

Limitation is not really in any particulaly version of DOS,
or it is in all of them (including Win95), depending on how
you look at it. DOS uses the BIOS to determine the disk
geometry and most older BIOS's have 504MB (1024 cylinder)
limit. Refer following FAQ pages:

http://thef-nym.sci.kun.nl/~pieterh/storage.html
http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/ata/

Linux kernel does not rely on the BIOS (but boot loaders do)
so Linux will not need OnTrack or fancy BIOS. However if
you have >1024 cylinder DOS/Win95 partitions, then you will
need to have either modern BIOS or some type of Software
tricks like OnTrack.

Regards
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