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In article <1992Dec24.005237.8069@netcom.com>, knee@netcom.com (Mark Lanett) writes:
> dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber) writes:
> 
> [I wrote]
> 

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I guess someone will have to bite the bullet (possibly me if I have time) and do a
port of Mach 3.0 to the Mac and give the to the Linux people (or maybe start some
equivalent group.  Sigh...  I still don't understand why CMU couldn't have written
the drivers and such from scratch, then the 3.0 u-kernel would have been unencumbered.
Oh well, easy for me to say...

> If you want to do Mac and unix stuff at the same time on the same machine, look
> into A/UX or MachTen. If you want unix source code to play with, look into
> BSDI386 or 386BSD or Linux or the Hurd. If you want a free unix: 386BSD or
> Linux or the Hurd again. If you want the source code to a unix on the *Mac*,
> well, there is none, you'll need to port BSD 4.4 and the BSD or Mach kernals
> (or Linux or the Hurd).

Comments:

1. 386BSD - not useful, since I have a Mac.

2. BSDI386 - ditto.

3. Linux - ditto.

4. the Hurd - non-existent (and wouldn't work on the Mac anyway, at least not right away).
   I don't know what the status of this project is.  I haven't heard anything in months.

> Note that MacMach allowed you to run the MacOS under Mach but then you
> were locked out of the unix side (which is why to work with BOTH you need A/UX
> or MachTen).

This I don't understand.  I'm running A/UX now.  It runs on the naked metal and emulates
the Mac desktop via Unix magic.  Why would you "be locked out of the Unix side"?

> Glossary:
> A/UX is Apple's commercial SysV unix.
> MachTen is Tenon's commercial Mach+BSD unix.
> BSDI386 is BSDI's 386 BSD unix.
> 386BSD and Linux are free unixes-in-the-works.
> Hurd is the GNU's semi-mythical Mach-based better-than-unix, also in the works.
> 
> PS. I forgot MtXinu's BSD+Mach unix, commercial, 386, but source is included.

Absolutely not!  At least not without shelling out a lot more money than the
binary license!  I should know, I had mach386 on my PC (before I sold it).  It
was a great product, I could even build and run Mach 3.0 stuff on it.  Unfortunately,
it doesn't run on a Mac.

> Mark L

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