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Article #3023Re: WARNING VISUAL C++
From: Wilson X. Wen
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 01:02
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 01:02
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From article <14JUL93.12564805.0008@tscc.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU>, by Michael Turk <ABMT@musica.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU>: > WARNING > ======= > its own sample "HELLO WORLD" first program without dying > with obscure errors such as "LINKAGE ERROR 3"; that cannot > run on a standard 486DX with 4M memory is not suitable as a > teaching or learning tool except in a specialist environment. > Here is my two cents: I've been with turbo c++ for more than one year and quite comfortable with it. I started to use MSVC several months ago and fund it is really good, eg. 1. much more powerful than turbo c++, especially when you compare MFC with OWL, 2. has got an IDE which is fully under windows environment, turbo c++ has got a less attractive non-windows debugger and you always need to switch between the non-windows debugger and windows editor etc., I found it is quite disgusting. 3. MSVC provides complete prototyping functions which are not provided directly by Turbo C++. You can, of course, use PROTOGEN, for example, with Turbo C++ to compansite. It is fair enough to say that MSVC++ is more complicated than TC++ is, but MSVC++ does provide more powers. If you do a UNIX du under MSVC directory you will find most of the disk space is taken by MFC and some other features not provided by TC++. I have managed to reduce the disk space required by MSVC++ to a bit more than 20MB by zipping all examples and most of the help files, deleting some parts which I am not intersted in (eg. tyny/small, med, and comp memory mode), etc. As for the memory space, I have a 486DX-33 with 4MB memory, tried most of the examples coming with MSVC++, and found it's OK for all of them (including "Hello world" and scribble etc). It seems the compiler is slower than TC++ (there are a lot of disk/momery swaps going on) and the code generated is much bigger than that generated by TC++, but this might be what you should pay for a much better MFC user interface including a set of printer management menus! Wilson Wen
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