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Article #144Problems setting up a two-PC home network - Please help! (#2)
From: Serban Andrei Dumitrescu
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:56
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:56
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Hi all, hello Madhur,
thank you for your input. I configured everything as you said; here's the
output of ipconfig /all on the two PCs:
1 - on the Win2000 machine:
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Windows 2000-IP-Konfiguration
Hostname. . . . . . . . . . . . . : svejk
Prim�res DNS-Suffix . . . . . . . :
Knotentyp . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcastadapter
IP-Routing aktiviert. . . . . . . : Ja
WINS-Proxy aktiviert. . . . . . . : Nein
Ethernetadapter "LAN-Verbindung":
Beschreibung. . . . . . . . . . . : Sitecom PCI Fast 10/100
Ethernet Adapter LN-020
Physikalische Adresse . . . . . . : 00-50-BF-A6-37-56
DHCP-aktiviert. . . . . . . . . . : Nein
IP-Adresse. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnetzmaske. . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Standardgateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS-Server. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
PPP-Adapter "ZEDAT/Mediaways/Andrei":
Verbindungsspezifisches DNS-Suffix:
Beschreibung. . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physikalische Adresse . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
DHCP-aktiviert. . . . . . . . . . : Nein
IP-Adresse. . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
Subnetzmaske. . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Standardgateway . . . . . . . . . : XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
DNS-Server. . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
[I XXX-ed out the actual IPs of my dialup connection; they're irrelevant,
besides, you never know...]
NetBIOS �ber TCP/IP . . . . . . . : Deaktiviert
2 - on the Win95 machine:
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Windows 98 IP-Konfiguration
[It says "Windows 98" although it's Win95 because the original Win95
installation didn't include the ipconfig.exe program; it was installed
later with some update package.]
Hostname . . . . . . . . . : compaq
DNS-Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Knotentyp . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS-Bereichs-ID . . . . :
IP-Routing aktiviert. . . . : Nein
WINS-Proxy aktiviert. . . . : Nein
NetBIOS-Aufl�sung mit DNS . : Ja
0 Ethernet Adapter :
Beschreibung. . . . . . . . : Novell 2000 Adapter.
Physische Adresse . . . . . : 08-00-17-08-DF-A3
DHCP aktiviert. . . . . . . : Nein
IP-Adresse. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Standard-Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Erster WINS-Server . . . . :
Zweiter WINS-Server . . . :
G�ltig seit. . . . . . . :
G�ltig bis . . . . . . . :
1 Ethernet Adapter :
Beschreibung. . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physische Adresse . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP aktiviert. . . . . . . : Ja
IP-Adresse. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Standard-Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP-Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Erster WINS-Server . . . . :
Zweiter WINS-Server . . . :
G�ltig seit. . . . . . . :
G�ltig bis . . . . . . . :
However, pinging between the two computers still doesn't work.
I thought maybe the cable's no good, but some type of electrical impulses
must be getting through since Win2000 senses when there's a cable
connecting the two PCs; unplug either one and Win2000 will notify you
through a small tray symbol.
Of course, that doesn't rule out that the cable doesn't work _properly_...
Also I know there's a cable length limit between two nodes of an Ethernet
network; however I believe my 30 m cable doesn't exceed it.
Anything left for me to try?
Thanks in advance,
Andrei
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Madhur Ahuja wrote:
> Serban Andrei Dumitrescu <sad@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>
> [snip]
>> I've installed (if it wasn't already) NetBEUI and TCP/IP on both PCs,
>> set their IPs to 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2, respectively (subnet
>> mask: 255.255.255.0), set the Win2000 machine (192.168.0.1) as the
>> default gateway, added (if not already there) "Client for MS
>> Networks" and "File & Printer Sharing", set up a common workgroup,
>> added on the Win2000 PC another user named exactly as the default
>> user on the Win95 machine (and with the same - blank - password)
>> because some guys on the 'net said it would be a good idea.
>
> Yes, you require the common username and password for resource sharing.
>
>> Also I've
>> created an entry for each PC in both the hosts file and the lmhosts
>> file on both computers (disabling WINS and specifying to use LMHOSTS
>> instead). All to no avail; NETBIOS names aren't translated to IP
>> adresses, and pinging another PC by its IP number won't work either.
>> Needless to say, there isn't any "personal firewall" running that
>> could block requests.
>
> If you cannot ping the other machine by IP number, then dont expect anything
> to
> occur through netbios. ping determines the basic network connectivity. To
> resolve this
> make sure that LAN connection is enabled in Win2k, and the lights on the
> ethernet card
> are on.
>
> Also paste here the contents of *ipconfig /all* of both computers.
>
>> Now here are some more specific questions:
>>
>> - Do I need to have NETBEUI installed at all? Not necessarily,
>> according to my previous experience with Win95/WinNT networks,
>> however those were large corporate networks with dedicated DNS
>> servers, WINS servers, gateways etc. With my 2-PC-network I tried it
>> both with and without NETBEUI (that is, with only TCP/IP as the
>> default protocol), with no success either way.
>
> Dont know about this one.
>
>> - Enable NETBios over TCP/IP or not? I've actually tried both already
>> in different configurations; no luck.
>
> If you need to see shares with \\computer , you need to enable netbios.
>
>> - Enable or disable DNS? Since I've no DNS server software running on
>> neither PC, it seemed obvious to me to disable it; I also tried a
>> configuration with DNS enabled, but no DNS server specified, and still
>> another one when I specified the Win2000 machine as DNS server. None
>> worked.
>
> It depends on how you to choose the share the Internet. If you are using
> built in Internet Connection sharing(ICS) then you have to set both DNS and
> gateway to 192.168.0.1
>
>> - I hear contradictory stuff about "Master browsing". Indeed, on the
>> Win95 system there are to options (variables) that can be set up
>> under "File and Printer Sharing": the first one (the upper one) is
>> called something like "LM-Service" (default: "No") and another one
>> below it called something like "Browsing" (default: Auto). I can't
>> tell the exact English names because I'm actually running the German
>> version of Windows. Should I change any of these two values?
>
> No, keep them as it is.
>
>> - Finally, anything obvious I might have overlooked? Any way to test
>> the cable itself?
>
> Yes, if you cannot ping by IP, this could be an issue. Try replacing the
> cable.
>
>> Thanks a bunch - any suggestions would be highly appreciated!
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Andrei
>
> --
> Madhur Ahuja [madhur<underscore>ahuja<at>yahoo<dot>com]
>
> Homepage
> http://madhur.netfirms.com
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