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Article #57Re: ARE YOU MCSE/CNE CERTIFIED.. YET?
From: R2D2
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:00
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Dan :-) You are absolutely correct in your definition of paper MCSE's but the real problem is that companies are now on the same bandwagon having heard the 'magic word' and want all their tecnical staff certified. Which makes it difficult if you are looking for a job. The personell manager immediately wants to know about certification (or plans?) before it considers the application - and this is where the problem starts. Having lots & lots of hands-on experience does NOT make up for the lack of this particular piece of paper ..... Charl Kunzmann cdk@x-on.com Jason Boche wrote in message <35768935.65E7@mm.com>... >Dan Bender wrote: >> >> Because of people like you, everybody wants to get on the MCSE >> bandwagon and make loot. But this leads to inexperienced "paper >> MCSE's". When they don't have the hands-on experience, the >> quality of service they perform is not up to par. It Irks me, microsoft >> needs to tighten the ropes a little bit more, and make it harder than >> it is. >> >> Dan > >I'm both pro and con - it depends on the people I talk to. It's >becoming a goldrush just like the CNE was a few years ago. Microsoft is >raising the bar with the new MCSE+Internet certification and when they >move over to the adaptive testing format with simulation type questions, >the failure rate will go through the roof to weed out all of the >Transcender and Exam Cram clowns. Do you have any idea what the failure >rate is already for MCP exams? It's actually quite high. So is the >dropout rate. Let's not forget also that failing an exam is $100 lost. > >I love it when I hear a group of 'techies' talking about Microsoft >certification. Everyone once in a while I will hear "I'm gonna do the >MCSE". Christ - they make it sound like it's a damned dance move... > >Jas > >-- > >-------------------------------------------------- >Jason Glenn Boche, MCSE, A+ Certified >EMAIL: hulio496@mm.com >CORPORATE EMAIL: jason.g.boche@norwest.com >WWW: http://www.mm.com/user/hulio496/ >ICQ: 272710
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10ff62,912460b7b2e177b6 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ff62,public X-Google-Thread: fb9cd,912460b7b2e177b6 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb9cd,public X-Google-Thread: 1138db,912460b7b2e177b6 X-Google-Attributes: gid1138db,public X-Google-Thread: ffee2,912460b7b2e177b6 X-Google-Attributes: gidffee2,public X-Google-Thread: f8547,912460b7b2e177b6 X-Google-Attributes: gidf8547,public X-Google-Thread: 108a34,912460b7b2e177b6 X-Google-Attributes: gid108a34,public X-Google-Thread: f4fa0,912460b7b2e177b6 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fa0,public X-Google-Thread: f8bf7,912460b7b2e177b6 X-Google-Attributes: gidf8bf7,public From: "R2D2" <cdk@x-on.com> Subject: Re: ARE YOU MCSE/CNE CERTIFIED.. YET? Date: 1998/06/11 Message-ID: <otWf1.161$zP.870563@newsgate.direct.ca> X-Deja-AN: 361789697 References: <356CCAD7.878715D@inet-1.com> <6kuvna$38m$1@newse3.twcny.rr.com> <35768935.65E7@mm.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:45:24 PDT Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.networking.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.os.netware.misc,alt.training.technology,demon.adverts,misc.education.adult,misc.education.home-school.misc,misc.e