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7 total messages Started by David Longley Sun, 09 Jun 1996 00:00
W95 to WFWG 3.11 Peer Networking????
#36
Author: David Longley
Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 00:00
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I have just upgraded one of my systems on a WFWG 3.11 network  to 
W95. The system has a Digital Turbo 3 network card installed  (as 
it  did  under  3.11)  and according to the  system  info  it  is 
installed and working. 

I  am unfamilar with the networking side of W95. Why can't I  see 
the  other  nodes on the network and vice-versa?  Where  are  the 
"connect  drive" etc that there were under 3.11? In  fact,  there 
seems very little under W95..

Please advise...
-- 
David Longley
Re: W95 to WFWG 3.11 Peer Networking????
#33
Author: Michael Humberston
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 00:00
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David Longley <David@longley.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>I have just upgraded one of my systems on a WFWG 3.11 network  to 
>W95. The system has a Digital Turbo 3 network card installed  (as 
>it  did  under  3.11)  and according to the  system  info  it  is 
>installed and working. 
>
>I  am unfamilar with the networking side of W95. Why can't I  see 
>the  other  nodes on the network and vice-versa?  Where  are  the 
>"connect  drive" etc that there were under 3.11? In  fact,  there 
>seems very little under W95..
>

Have you installed the appropriate protoccols on the W95 for talking
to a WFWG network?  You need to select Network Neighborhood/Properties
to bring up the Network configuration panel.  On this you need to
select Add... and then add the drivers for Client for MS Networks,
File and printer sharing for  MS networks and the NetBEUI protocol.

Once you have done this you connect to a WFWG directory in Explorer by
selecting Tools/Map Network Drive.  You will have to explicitly
specify the logical path (including the computer name) of the
directory you wish to connect to.

I theory one should also be able to connect to a shared Windows 95
directory from the WFWG machines using the usual techniques.  However,
I have been unable to get my WFWG machine to see my W95 machine.  I
would be interested to hear of your experience.

Mike


_________________________
Michael Humberston
Re: W95 to WFWG 3.11 Peer Networking????
#34
Author: leo
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 00:00
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In article <834360552snz@longley.demon.co.uk>
           David@longley.demon.co.uk "David Longley" writes:

> I have just upgraded one of my systems on a WFWG 3.11 network  to 
> W95. The system has a Digital Turbo 3 network card installed  (as 
> it  did  under  3.11)  and according to the  system  info  it  is 
> installed and working. 
> 
> I  am unfamilar with the networking side of W95. Why can't I  see 
> the  other  nodes on the network and vice-versa?  Where  are  the 
> "connect  drive" etc that there were under 3.11? In  fact,  there 
> seems very little under W95..


Try right-clicking each drive on the W95 machine and setting the sharing
option ..... really, David, I don't think you try .....

-- 
leo
Re: W95 to WFWG 3.11 Peer Networking????
#35
Author: David Longley
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 00:00
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In article <834445867snz@lgab.demon.co.uk> leo@lgab.demon.co.uk "leo" writes:

> In article <834360552snz@longley.demon.co.uk>
>            David@longley.demon.co.uk "David Longley" writes:
> 
> > I have just upgraded one of my systems on a WFWG 3.11 network  to 
> > W95. The system has a Digital Turbo 3 network card installed  (as 
> > it  did  under  3.11)  and according to the  system  info  it  is 
> > installed and working. 
> > 
> > I  am unfamilar with the networking side of W95. Why can't I  see 
> > the  other  nodes on the network and vice-versa?  Where  are  the 
> > "connect  drive" etc that there were under 3.11? In  fact,  there 
> > seems very little under W95..
> 
> 
> Try right-clicking each drive on the W95 machine and setting the sharing
> option ..... really, David, I don't think you try .....
> 
> -- 
> leo
> 

No..the  problem is more serious. 

There  just do not sem to be enough IRQs to go around under  W95. 

Devices  are "floating" and leading to all kinds of odd  effects. 
On top of that, the SCSI AHA2940 card is not working properly  (a 
known  problem for the AHA2940/2940U and resident W95 drivers,  I 
have  downloaded  the new ones which has  only  partially  solved 
that).  I  think it may be that W95 is more picky  about  getting 
these conflicts sorted out than WFWG....

System: P166, Endeavour Board

PCI Matrox Millenium PCI
PCI Miro DC20 PCI
PCI AHA2940/2940U

ISA Digital Turbo 3

ISA ? Vibra 16 Sound Card

The problem is getting the Digital Network Card to work  reliably 
with  everything else. I can't use IRQ 5 (Vibra) or 10  (AHA2940) 
and  although 15 is available theoretically, the Endeavour  Board 
has two IDE channels using IRQ 14 and 15 so choosing 15 leads  to 
an error 9, IRQ conflict. 

If anyone knows of a sure way of getting these 5 working togther, 
please let me know. I have tried P&P in the AMIBIOS setup, and  I 
have  tried allocating various IRQs in manual mode to either  the 
vibra  or  Digital card. In the end, the system getts  so  choked 
that the Miro card tries to share and IRQ with the mouse on COM 2 
- forcing me to clear NVRAM and start again.
-- 
David Longley
Re: W95 to WFWG 3.11 Peer Networking????
#30
Author: Steven
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:00
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mike@philomel.demon.co.uk (Michael Humberston) wrote:

>>Have you installed the appropriate protoccols on the W95 for talking
>>to a WFWG network?  You need to select Network Neighborhood/Properties
>>to bring up the Network configuration panel.  On this you need to
>>select Add... and then add the drivers for Client for MS Networks,
>>File and printer sharing for  MS networks and the NetBEUI protocol.
{snip}

You'll also need to go into network - properties - IPX/SPX -
properties - click advanced tab and change Frames from 'Auto' to
Ethernet 802.3.  Until I did this, my 95 machines would intermitantly
talk to WFW.  Its bullet proof now.

Regards,

Steve
Re: W95 to WFWG 3.11 Peer Networking????
#31
Author: leo
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:00
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In article <834498464snz@longley.demon.co.uk>
           David@longley.demon.co.uk "David Longley" writes:

> No..the  problem is more serious. 
> 
> There  just do not sem to be enough IRQs to go around under  W95. 
> 
> Devices  are "floating" and leading to all kinds of odd  effects. 
> On top of that, the SCSI AHA2940 card is not working properly  (a 
> known  problem for the AHA2940/2940U and resident W95 drivers,  I 
> have  downloaded  the new ones which has  only  partially  solved 
> that).  I  think it may be that W95 is more picky  about  getting 
> these conflicts sorted out than WFWG....
> 
> System: P166, Endeavour Board
> 
> PCI Matrox Millenium PCI
> PCI Miro DC20 PCI
> PCI AHA2940/2940U
> 
> ISA Digital Turbo 3
> 
> ISA ? Vibra 16 Sound Card
> 
> The problem is getting the Digital Network Card to work  reliably 
> with  everything else. I can't use IRQ 5 (Vibra) or 10  (AHA2940) 
> and  although 15 is available theoretically, the Endeavour  Board 
> has two IDE channels using IRQ 14 and 15 so choosing 15 leads  to 
> an error 9, IRQ conflict. 
> 
> If anyone knows of a sure way of getting these 5 working togther, 
> please let me know. I have tried P&P in the AMIBIOS setup, and  I 
> have  tried allocating various IRQs in manual mode to either  the 
> vibra  or  Digital card. In the end, the system getts  so  choked 
> that the Miro card tries to share and IRQ with the mouse on COM 2 
> - forcing me to clear NVRAM and start again.


I sympathise, but I've always managed to get enough IRQs to go around,
even on fairly heavily loaded W95 machines. A printout from MSD or similar
and a little experimentation usually seems to do the job. I think you
have a compound problem in that you're not sure about a) whether the
hardware is working and b) what to do with W95 when it is ....



-- 
leo
Re: W95 to WFWG 3.11 Peer Networking????
#32
Author: David Longley
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 00:00
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In article <834615782snz@lgab.demon.co.uk> leo@lgab.demon.co.uk "leo" writes:

> In article <834498464snz@longley.demon.co.uk>
>            David@longley.demon.co.uk "David Longley" writes:
> 
> > No..the  problem is more serious. 
> > 
> > There  just do not sem to be enough IRQs to go around under  W95. 
> > 
> > Devices  are "floating" and leading to all kinds of odd  effects. 
> > On top of that, the SCSI AHA2940 card is not working properly  (a 
> > known  problem for the AHA2940/2940U and resident W95 drivers,  I 
> > have  downloaded  the new ones which has  only  partially  solved 
> > that).  I  think it may be that W95 is more picky  about  getting 
> > these conflicts sorted out than WFWG....
> > 
> > System: P166, Endeavour Board
> > 
> > PCI Matrox Millenium PCI
> > PCI Miro DC20 PCI
> > PCI AHA2940/2940U
> > 
> > ISA Digital Turbo 3
> > 
> > ISA ? Vibra 16 Sound Card
> > 
> > The problem is getting the Digital Network Card to work  reliably 
> > with  everything else. I can't use IRQ 5 (Vibra) or 10  (AHA2940) 
> > and  although 15 is available theoretically, the Endeavour  Board 
> > has two IDE channels using IRQ 14 and 15 so choosing 15 leads  to 
> > an error 9, IRQ conflict. 
> > 
> > If anyone knows of a sure way of getting these 5 working togther, 
> > please let me know. I have tried P&P in the AMIBIOS setup, and  I 
> > have  tried allocating various IRQs in manual mode to either  the 
> > vibra  or  Digital card. In the end, the system getts  so  choked 
> > that the Miro card tries to share and IRQ with the mouse on COM 2 
> > - forcing me to clear NVRAM and start again.
> 
> 
> I sympathise, but I've always managed to get enough IRQs to go around,
> even on fairly heavily loaded W95 machines. A printout from MSD or similar
> and a little experimentation usually seems to do the job. I think you
> have a compound problem in that you're not sure about a) whether the
> hardware is working and b) what to do with W95 when it is ....
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> leo
> 
I've  just upgraded the BIOS with 10005cb0 from Intel  and  after 
doing  so  all sorts of system bits were  re-recognized  by  W95. 
There  are  still  5 unknown devices hanging off a  ?  in  SYSTEM 
though. I reckon they are all the SCSI devices....Shouldn't  they 
be hanging down off the AHA2940?



-- 
David Longley
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