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Richard John Cavell wrote:

> Okay.
>
> I have two quite similar computers, both Pentium 2s, 128 Meg RAM.  One has
> Windows 2000 and is meant to be a server of sorts.  The other has Windows
> 98 and is meant to be a slave/client.
>
> The win2k machine has a 3Com LAN card installed.  This is connected by 2
> feet of cable to the win98 machine's intel LAN card.

2 feet is illegal! (It should be 2 meters or about 6 feet) - nevermind, it'll work

IF AND ONLY IF IT IS A **CROSSOVER** CABLE.


>  The drivers for the
> cards are setup correctly.
>
> On Win2k, I have a LAN icon with a red cross, which means that it is not
> working.  I mouse over it and it says 'Local Area Connection Network cable
> unplugged'.  The machine has Client for Microsoft networks, and TCP/IP
> installed and checked.
>
> On my Win98 machine, I have Client for Microsoft Networks and TCP/IP
> installed.
>
> On the Win98 machine, when I open Network Neighbourhood and double-click
> 'entire network', it gives me:
>
> Unable to browse the network.  The network is not accessible.  For more
> information, look in help.
>
> On my Win2k machine, My Network places simply has nothing in it.
>
> On both machines, they are configured to be in workgroup called
> 'WORKGROUP', no domain.  They have separate names.
>
> The cable certainly is plugged in.  It's possible that the cable is
> faulty, but I doubt it since it's worked in the past.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Cavell - richardcavell@mail.com
> -------------------------------------------------------------




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Rick
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p.s.  my email address will be changing in the next 2 months! ATT has lost the
"mediaone.net" domain!

"Richard John Cavell" <rjcavell@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.4.10.10201252357460.19972-100000@cassius.its.unimelb.edu.au...
> Okay.
>
> I have two quite similar computers, both Pentium 2s, 128 Meg RAM.  One has
> Windows 2000 and is meant to be a server of sorts.  The other has Windows
> 98 and is meant to be a slave/client.
>
> The win2k machine has a 3Com LAN card installed.  This is connected by 2
> feet of cable to the win98 machine's intel LAN card.  The drivers for the
> cards are setup correctly.
>
> On Win2k, I have a LAN icon with a red cross, which means that it is not
> working.  I mouse over it and it says 'Local Area Connection Network cable
> unplugged'.  The machine has Client for Microsoft networks, and TCP/IP
> installed and checked.
>
> On my Win98 machine, I have Client for Microsoft Networks and TCP/IP
> installed.
>
> On the Win98 machine, when I open Network Neighbourhood and double-click
> 'entire network', it gives me:
>
> Unable to browse the network.  The network is not accessible.  For more
> information, look in help.
>
> On my Win2k machine, My Network places simply has nothing in it.
>
> On both machines, they are configured to be in workgroup called
> 'WORKGROUP', no domain.  They have separate names.
>
> The cable certainly is plugged in.  It's possible that the cable is
> faulty, but I doubt it since it's worked in the past.

It's worked under the same setup?

> Any ideas?

Is it a crossover cable?

"Rick Merrill" <RickMerrill@mediaone.net> wrote in message
news:3C51676D.CBE5091B@mediaone.net...
> Richard John Cavell wrote:
>
> > Okay.
> >
> > I have two quite similar computers, both Pentium 2s, 128 Meg RAM.  One
has
> > Windows 2000 and is meant to be a server of sorts.  The other has
Windows
> > 98 and is meant to be a slave/client.
> >
> > The win2k machine has a 3Com LAN card installed.  This is connected by 2
> > feet of cable to the win98 machine's intel LAN card.
>
> 2 feet is illegal! (It should be 2 meters or about 6 feet) - nevermind,
it'll work
>
> IF AND ONLY IF IT IS A **CROSSOVER** CABLE.
>

What is it was a coax? :)

"Richard John Cavell" <rjcavell@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.4.10.10201252357460.19972-100000@cassius.its.unimelb.edu.au...
> Okay.
>
> I have two quite similar computers, both Pentium 2s, 128 Meg RAM.  One has
> Windows 2000 and is meant to be a server of sorts.  The other has Windows
> 98 and is meant to be a slave/client.
>
> The win2k machine has a 3Com LAN card installed.  This is connected by 2
> feet of cable to the win98 machine's intel LAN card.  The drivers for the
> cards are setup correctly.
>
> On Win2k, I have a LAN icon with a red cross, which means that it is not
> working.  I mouse over it and it says 'Local Area Connection Network cable
> unplugged'.  The machine has Client for Microsoft networks, and TCP/IP
> installed and checked.
>
> On my Win98 machine, I have Client for Microsoft Networks and TCP/IP
> installed.
>
> On the Win98 machine, when I open Network Neighbourhood and double-click
> 'entire network', it gives me:
>
> Unable to browse the network.  The network is not accessible.  For more
> information, look in help.
>
> On my Win2k machine, My Network places simply has nothing in it.
>
> On both machines, they are configured to be in workgroup called
> 'WORKGROUP', no domain.  They have separate names.
>
> The cable certainly is plugged in.  It's possible that the cable is
> faulty, but I doubt it since it's worked in the past.
>
> Any ideas?
>
Firstly it sounds like your NIC/Cable isn't set up correctly.  What kind of
cable are you using?   Cat5's if you're plugging point to point you need a
crossover cable, Coaxial need 50Ohm terminators.  (Cat5's have telephone
looking plugs (RJ45), coax ones look a bit like your TV antenna (BNC)).  You
probably think the cable worked  because in the past because (Cat5) it was
connected to a hub, it (Coax) was on a larger network with terminator plugs
on the end.

Then once you get the cable working [No ugly network cable unplugged icon]
and it doesn't work :- try setting the IP address for both computers to be
on 192.168.0.x or any other local sub (eg 10.0.0.x) but on the same ones.

Then you'd probably get the $IPC problem, but we'd come back to that one.

Cheers,
John who is not awake on a Saturday morning to do more work...argh

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:03:56 GMT, Rick Merrill <RickMerrill@mediaone.net> wrote:

>2 feet is illegal! (It should be 2 meters or about 6 feet) - nevermind, it'll work
>
>IF AND ONLY IF IT IS A **CROSSOVER** CABLE.

what the fuck?
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> 
> "Rick Merrill" <RickMerrill@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> news:3C51676D.CBE5091B@mediaone.net...
>> Richard John Cavell wrote:
>>
>> > Okay.
>> >
>> > I have two quite similar computers, both Pentium 2s, 128 Meg RAM. 
>> > One 
> has
>> > Windows 2000 and is meant to be a server of sorts.  The other has
> Windows
>> > 98 and is meant to be a slave/client.
>> >
>> > The win2k machine has a 3Com LAN card installed.  This is connected
>> > by 2 feet of cable to the win98 machine's intel LAN card.
>>
>> 2 feet is illegal! (It should be 2 meters or about 6 feet) -
>> nevermind, 
> it'll work
>>
>> IF AND ONLY IF IT IS A **CROSSOVER** CABLE.
>>
> 
> What is it was a coax? :)
> 
> 
> 
> 

then maybe he can get some free pr0n out of the deal too! :)

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"ThePsyko" <thepsyko@itookmyprozac.com> wrote in message
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> On 25 Jan 2002 in that fucked up hellhole known as
> comp.os.ms-windows.networking, an identity claiming to be John @
> Trebutech spewed forth news:a2sp42$13ua5h$1@ID-106644.news.dfncis.de:
>
> >
> > "Rick Merrill" <RickMerrill@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> > news:3C51676D.CBE5091B@mediaone.net...
> >> Richard John Cavell wrote:
> >>
> >> > Okay.
> >> >
> >> > I have two quite similar computers, both Pentium 2s, 128 Meg RAM.
> >> > One
> > has
> >> > Windows 2000 and is meant to be a server of sorts.  The other has
> > Windows
> >> > 98 and is meant to be a slave/client.
> >> >
> >> > The win2k machine has a 3Com LAN card installed.  This is connected
> >> > by 2 feet of cable to the win98 machine's intel LAN card.
> >>
> >> 2 feet is illegal! (It should be 2 meters or about 6 feet) -
> >> nevermind,
> > it'll work
> >>
> >> IF AND ONLY IF IT IS A **CROSSOVER** CABLE.
> >>
> >
> > What is it was a coax? :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> then maybe he can get some free pr0n out of the deal too! :)

Coax porn? ;-)

OK, John, so what is the $IPC problem?

I, too, am having difficulty with a W2K box and a W98 box on a lan. When
they were both W98 machines they communicated just fine. But now I have
formatted the hard drive on one and freshly installed W2K Pro. The W2K
machine is able to fully access the W98 machine, but when I try to access
the W2K machine FROM the W98 machine through network neighborhood the only
option I have is \\(W2K name)\$IPC. I can't seem to be able to confirgure
the W2K machine to let the W98 access it.

Yes, I have enabled file and print sharing. BTW, both machines are attached
to a SMC broadband router. Obviously, I am not a computer pro. Please help.

Thanks in advance,
Bob

>
> Then you'd probably get the $IPC problem, but we'd come back to that one.
>
> Cheers,
> John who is not awake on a Saturday morning to do more work...argh
>
>

"Robert Adelman" <bobade1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0hG48.14698$RD5.36291@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> OK, John, so what is the $IPC problem?
>
> I, too, am having difficulty with a W2K box and a W98 box on a lan. When
> they were both W98 machines they communicated just fine. But now I have
> formatted the hard drive on one and freshly installed W2K Pro. The W2K
> machine is able to fully access the W98 machine, but when I try to access
> the W2K machine FROM the W98 machine through network neighborhood the only
> option I have is \\(W2K name)\$IPC. I can't seem to be able to confirgure
> the W2K machine to let the W98 access it.
>
> Yes, I have enabled file and print sharing. BTW, both machines are
attached
> to a SMC broadband router. Obviously, I am not a computer pro. Please
help.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bob
>

Create an user account on the Win2k box that is identical in login/password
to the one you use to log in on the Win98 system.  Assign whatever
privileges you desire.  Should work now.

<YAWN>
Cheers mate

> >
> > Then you'd probably get the $IPC problem, but we'd come back to that
one.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > John who is not awake on a Saturday morning to do more work...argh
> >
> >
>
>