🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <Pine.BSF.3.95.980327165042.7458B-100000@mercury.mcs.net>,
Michael Walden  <walden@Mercury.mcs.net> wrote:
>> ISPs playing this game as an attempt to extort more money from people and
>> circumvent the allocation guidelines should be reported to ARIN for two
>> reasons - (1) you have no reason to pay for the addresses (the cost per
>> address to the ISP even if they have to get an ARIN membership is on the 
>> order of a one-time fee of $0.02 per IP number), and 
>
>The rest of the post was accurate except the above. The above is not true
>for ISP's. It is true for individual entities getting IP space from ARIN
>but not ISP's, IPS's are billed the following.
>
>ISP Subscriptions for Bulk Registrations
>
>Small		$2500/year /24 - /19 
>Medium 		$5000/year >/19 - /16 

A /19 is 32 Class "C"s.  32 * 256 = 8192
5000 / 8192 = 0.63 one time.

>Large 		$10K/year  >/16 - /14

A /16 is 256 * 256 addresses, or 65536
Or ~0.15 cents, again, one time.

>X-Large		$20K/year  >/14

A /14 is 1024 * 256 addresses.  Do the math. (~0.08/address)

>http://www.arin.net/feeschedule.html
>
>It is surprising that someone on the ARIN AC does not know this. Oh well,
>we will just not re-elect you when your term is up. Democracy is our
>friend.

You only need to pay the fees if you come BACK for allocation during
that year.  If you are stable, and not asking for more space, you do not
need to signup for these fees.

That is, the fees are actually one-time.  If you do not need to request more
space in a given year, you do not need to pay that fee, because you are not
using the allocation service.

They are quoted as "$/year" because it is presumed that you will be using
them in a given year.

Now, given that you would pay, for example, 8 cents to have the address
allocated ONCE, what is this crap about charging someone $5/month for it?

That's quite a margin, is it not?

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