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Article #24Re: Cable Modem/Winproxy question
From: Clark Lebarge
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:00
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Where do I sign?! I want to nail SaskTel, they constantly screw over their customers not just on their pathetic ISP but on their telphone service as well. I can't wait until we get some other phone companies here. Karl Denninger wrote in message <6eum0r$86o$1@Mars.mcs.net>... >In article <6eule5$st8$2@winter.news.erols.com>, >Jim Pettipas <jinks1@x.erols.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>> When the service started the ADSL lines used static IP addressing and >>>>> everyone was happy. Then they decided that they would start using NAT to >>>>> have a type of dynamic IP addressing, then no one was happy. Now they >>want >>>>> to sell us the right to have a static IP address again for the low cost >>of >>>>> 100 dollars. They expect people to pay 100 dollars extra a month so that >>we >>>>> can be privledged enough to have the same service that we received to >>begin >>>>> with. >>>> >>>>Actually, that may be ARIN's fault. >>> >>>The revocation of static addresses from those who don't have 24x7 access is >>>a policy issue that may be attributed to ARIN. >>> >>>The charging of $100/month for a static address is NOT attributable to >>ARIN. >> >> >>FYI, my ISP charges $75 a year for a static IP address. > >Any ISP which is charging SPECIFICALLY for a static address should, IMHO, >be reported to ARIN as such. You might not see an immediate reaction >to this, but the next time that ISP tries to justify their address >allocation policies to obtain more addresses............. > >This is an issue which I believe needs wide debate within ARIN. I am >strongly against ISPs doing this for a number of reasons, not the least >of which is that it leads directly to the violation of the actual rules >for assignment of address space (and the granting of future requests for >more). > >Static addresses have been pretty much banned for non-24x7 dial >customers who have no valid technical need for them (ie: not a routed >connection), and granting them has been given as a SPECIFIC reason for >refusal to make additional allocations. > >I fundamentally think that this sucks, but if the rules are going to be this >way, then they need to be UNIVERSALLY enforced against ALL ISPs, large or >small, regardless of who they are or who they know. > >Note that this is true regardless of whether you paid for the address or not. > >ISPs playing this game as an attempt to extort more money from people and >circumvent the allocation guidelines should be reported to ARIN for two >reasons - (1) you have no reason to pay for the addresses (the cost per >address to the ISP even if they have to get an ARIN membership is on the >order of a one-time fee of $0.02 per IP number), and (2) circumventing the >rules on allocations is asking to have your next request turned down flat. > >-- >-- >Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin >http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV > | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! >Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS >Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost
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