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Paul Steckler wrote:

> I have a SB AWE32 ISA card installed on home-built
> machine.  Today, I reinstalled Windows NT 4.
>
> Following the directions at Creative's site, I unpacked
> AWENT40.EXE and installed the drivers.
>
> Everything is working, except that every time I login
> to the Administrator account, I get a message that
> Plug-n-play has detected a new device, the
> one for 3d Stereo Enhancements.  I don't get
> any prompts about what driver to install -- the
> message indicates the driver is being installed
> automatically.  Unfortunately, I don't know what
> driver that is.
>
> For now, I've disabled PNP to get rid of this annoyance.
> But why is it occurring?  Is there a driver I can install
> manually?
>
> I've tried uninstalling all the Creative drivers, and
> reinstalling.  No joy.
>
> -- Paul

If the message disappears after disabling PNP OS in the system bios setup, then
it should be quite OK. WinNT is not a PnP operating system anyway.

Removing the Sound Blaster drivers is not an easy proposition. The instructions
are in the readme.txt file for Awent40.exe. The same applies in regards to what
to do when asked for the 3D stereo enhancement.

In article <3A3D6527.E2460460@danang.rvn>,
  Mistoffolees <mistyfac01@danang.rvn> wrote:
> If the message disappears after disabling PNP OS in the system bios
setup, then
> it should be quite OK. WinNT is not a PnP operating system anyway.

Unfortunately, the message still appears after disabling
PnP in the BIOS.

> Removing the Sound Blaster drivers is not an easy proposition. The
instructions
> are in the readme.txt file for Awent40.exe. The same applies in
regards to what
> to do when asked for the 3D stereo enhancement.

I followed those directions, using UPDPNPNT.EXE to remove
the drivers.  No luck -- the message appears with each
login after the drivers are reinstalled.  I believe the
3D Enhancement driver is not part of AWENT40.EXE, since the
directions suggest accepting the "default NT driver".  So
removing it probably requires some other procedure.

-- Paul


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Thanks for refreshing my memory. Have been using Turtle Beach Montego II
sound cards lately.

Creative Lab's instructions are somewhat vague and it has been that way ever
since the original awent40.exe files were generated years back. Reference to
the "default driver" for 3D enhancement probably refers to a file in the WinNT
distribution cdrom. The 3D Stereo Enhancement feature is a component found
in the volume control (mixer) panel.

To do the SB AWE32 installation again, follow the instructions to remove
the "old", i.e., existing drivers, and try reloading the drivers again. Keep the
NT4 cdrom in the drive. When asked for the "NT default driver", you may
have to browse to find it. A good starting point is \drvlib\audio\sbpnp\i386.
One cannot omit any steps or error messages will continue to appear. That
was the way it was, and still is, with the Sound Blaster cards.

Good luck.

steck@cs.rice.edu wrote:

> In article <3A3D6527.E2460460@danang.rvn>,
>   Mistoffolees <mistyfac01@danang.rvn> wrote:
> > If the message disappears after disabling PNP OS in the system bios
> setup, then
> > it should be quite OK. WinNT is not a PnP operating system anyway.
>
> Unfortunately, the message still appears after disabling
> PnP in the BIOS.
>
> > Removing the Sound Blaster drivers is not an easy proposition. The
> instructions
> > are in the readme.txt file for Awent40.exe. The same applies in
> regards to what
> > to do when asked for the 3D stereo enhancement.
>
> I followed those directions, using UPDPNPNT.EXE to remove
> the drivers.  No luck -- the message appears with each
> login after the drivers are reinstalled.  I believe the
> 3D Enhancement driver is not part of AWENT40.EXE, since the
> directions suggest accepting the "default NT driver".  So
> removing it probably requires some other procedure.
>
> -- Paul
>
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In article <3A3D9A90.248119BC@danang.rvn>,
  Mistoffolees <mistyfac01@danang.rvn> wrote:
> To do the SB AWE32 installation again, follow the instructions to
remove
> the "old", i.e., existing drivers, and try reloading the drivers
again. Keep the
> NT4 cdrom in the drive. When asked for the "NT default driver", you
may
> have to browse to find it.

Unfortunately, I don't actually get the prompt for the
"NT default driver", even after uninstalling the Sound Blaster
drivers.  Instead, after the drivers have been reinstalled,
I get the message that the Stereo Enhancement hardware is new,
and NT is installing drivers for it.  That happens on each login.
When logging in as a user, not Administrator, I get an error message
about new hardware.

I think NT is finding the driver file on disk, and just using
that.  If I knew which driver file(s) corresponds to the Stereo
Enhancement feature, I could delete it, and perhaps it would install
correctly then.

Funny thing is, this is a reinstall of NT on this machine on a new
hard disk.  I didn't get this problem with the original install.

-- Paul


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In article <3A3D9A90.248119BC@danang.rvn>,
  Mistoffolees <mistyfac01@danang.rvn> wrote:
> To do the SB AWE32 installation again, follow the instructions to remove
> the "old", i.e., existing drivers, and try reloading the drivers again. Keep the
> NT4 cdrom in the drive. When asked for the "NT default driver", you may
> have to browse to find it.

Unfortunately, I never get asked for that default driver,
probably because it's already on disk, or because of some
Registry setting.  That's true even after uninstalling drivers
per Creative's instructions.

Do you know what driver is used for the Stereo Enhancement feature?

-- Paul


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In article <3A3D9A90.248119BC@danang.rvn>,
  Mistoffolees <mistyfac01@danang.rvn> wrote:
> To do the SB AWE32 installation again, follow the instructions to remove
> the "old", i.e., existing drivers, and try reloading the drivers again. Keep the
> NT4 cdrom in the drive. When asked for the "NT default driver", you may
> have to browse to find it.

Unfortunately, I never get asked for that default driver,
probably because it's already on disk, or because of some
Registry setting.  That's true even after uninstalling drivers
per Creative's instructions.

Do you know what driver is used for the Stereo Enhancement feature?

-- Paul


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In article <3A3D9A90.248119BC@danang.rvn>,
  Mistoffolees <mistyfac01@danang.rvn> wrote:
> To do the SB AWE32 installation again, follow the instructions to remove
> the "old", i.e., existing drivers, and try reloading the drivers again. Keep the
> NT4 cdrom in the drive. When asked for the "NT default driver", you may
> have to browse to find it.

Unfortunately, I never get asked for that default driver,
probably because it's already on disk, or because of some
Registry setting.  That's true even after uninstalling drivers
per Creative's instructions.

Do you know what driver is used for the Stereo Enhancement feature?

-- Paul


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In article <3A3D9A90.248119BC@danang.rvn>,
  Mistoffolees <mistyfac01@danang.rvn> wrote:
> To do the SB AWE32 installation again, follow the instructions to remove
> the "old", i.e., existing drivers, and try reloading the drivers again. Keep the
> NT4 cdrom in the drive. When asked for the "NT default driver", you may
> have to browse to find it.

Unfortunately, I never get asked for that default driver,
probably because it's already on disk, or because of some
Registry setting.  That's true even after uninstalling drivers
per Creative's instructions.

Do you know what driver is used for the Stereo Enhancement feature?

-- Paul


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In article <3A3D9A90.248119BC@danang.rvn>,
  Mistoffolees <mistyfac01@danang.rvn> wrote:
> To do the SB AWE32 installation again, follow the instructions to remove
> the "old", i.e., existing drivers, and try reloading the drivers again. Keep the
> NT4 cdrom in the drive. When asked for the "NT default driver", you may
> have to browse to find it.

Unfortunately, I never get asked for that default driver,
probably because it's already on disk, or because of some
Registry setting.  That's true even after uninstalling drivers
per Creative's instructions.

Do you know what driver is used for the Stereo Enhancement feature?

-- Paul



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In article <3A3D9A90.248119BC@danang.rvn>,
  Mistoffolees <mistyfac01@danang.rvn> wrote:
> To do the SB AWE32 installation again, follow the instructions to remove
> the "old", i.e., existing drivers, and try reloading the drivers again. Keep the
> NT4 cdrom in the drive. When asked for the "NT default driver", you may
> have to browse to find it.

Unfortunately, I'm never asked for the driver.  NT just
indicates it's being installed, so I don't know what
driver is being used.

Do you know what file is used for the Stereo Enhancement
feature?

-- Paul


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In article <3A3D9A90.248119BC@danang.rvn>,
  Mistoffolees <mistyfac01@danang.rvn> wrote:
> To do the SB AWE32 installation again, follow the instructions to remove
> the "old", i.e., existing drivers, and try reloading the drivers again. Keep the
> NT4 cdrom in the drive. When asked for the "NT default driver", you may
> have to browse to find it.

Unfortunately, I don't get asked for the driver.  NT just
claims to be installing it for me.   I've tried uninstalling
and reloading the drivers.  NT doesn't find the Stereo Enhancement
hardware until the reboot after it's found the other
hardware.  But then it finds claims that the Stereo Enhancement
hardware is "new" on every login or reboot.

If I knew what the driver actually was, maybe I could remove
it, and force it to be reinstalled.  Or maybe there's a registry
setting that can be fixed.

-- Paul


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When I tried to post a reponse, DejaNews indicated an error
occurred.  So I retried ... and retried.  Unfortunately,
the posts *were* taking, despite DejaNews' assertion to
the contrary.  Sorry about that ...

-- Paul


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steck@cs.rice.edu wrote:

> In article <3A3D9A90.248119BC@danang.rvn>,
>   Mistoffolees <mistyfac01@danang.rvn> wrote:
> > To do the SB AWE32 installation again, follow the instructions to remove
> > the "old", i.e., existing drivers, and try reloading the drivers again. Keep the
> > NT4 cdrom in the drive. When asked for the "NT default driver", you may
> > have to browse to find it.
>
> Unfortunately, I never get asked for that default driver,
> probably because it's already on disk, or because of some
> Registry setting.  That's true even after uninstalling drivers
> per Creative's instructions.
>
> Do you know what driver is used for the Stereo Enhancement feature?
>
> -- Paul
>
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Have you tried to uninstall all of the AWE32 drivers by the method mentioned
in the readme.txt of the awent40.exe file from Creative Labs? And then reboot
the computer, as mentioned previously? If this doesn't work, then delete all
of the SoundBlaster files, disable pnpisa.sys (unless it is needed by an other
device), remove the sound card and reboot. This should clear the registry.
Next, re-install the sound card...it should not be detected, and start setting up
the SB drivers from the top, starting with pnpisa.sys.

If this re-install does not resolve the problem, then it means a de novo install
of NT. One little misstep with the driver installation for any SB PnP card is
disastrous. The other alternative is to use a different sound card and the TB
Montego II is currently on sale. This is one sound card which has written for
NT and not as an after thought.

Finally, one last question: PnP OS is disabled in system bios setup, right?