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On Fri, 18 Oct 1996 17:23:21 +0100, in demon.ip.support.other, John Beardmore
(John Beardmore <wookie@wookie.demon.co.uk>) wrote:

> I've installed DOS on a new SCSI drive and run WINNT in \I386 on the CD
> ROM.

How big is the drive/partition?  Is this that repaired 4GB drive?

> Once it's made the boot floppy set, it bombs out with a "run-time error
> R6000 - stack overflow" !  Has anybody else seen this problem ?  If so,
> was there a simple work around ?

yuk, sounds nasty.  Have you tried creating a partition (of less than 512MB) and
formatting it FAT, booting to a DOS boot floppy with the CD-ROM driver on it and
then doing a winnt /b (floppyless operation) from the \i386\ directory of the
CD?  You can then run the convert command from NT after installation to change
it to an NTFS partition (although you will need to install again if you want the
default security settings on the files within the %systemroot% directory - I
think).

> Come to think of it, didn't somebody say that MS had dropped support for
> the 386 under NT 4.0 ?  If so, it seems a bit perverse to call the
> directory on the CD ROM \I386 !

They've certainly dropped the MIPS processor architecture for good now, I'll
just check the box on the other side of the room to see about the 386.

Yep, you're right, the minimum Intel x86 chipset supported is the 486/33, the
Pentium and Pentium Pro (and compatible 586 and 686 chipsets) are also
supported.

It's interesting that the shrink-wrapped version is only licensed for boxes with
a maximum of four processors, if my memory servers me correctly the
shrink-wrapped NT 3.51 was licensed for up to 8.  I hear that even Microsoft
mice carry a license agreement forbidding you to attach them to a unit with more
than two processors.  IMHO Windows without a mouse isn't very useful and AFAIK
nobody has passed the logon screen without a mouse or keyboard (or did I miss
some huge development of telepathic communications equipment?).


Christopher


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> Christopher Sharp wrote:


...snip ...

>if my memory servers me correctly the
> shrink-wrapped NT 3.51 was licensed for up to 8.  

Well, the old Sequent Winservers used to run up to 12 cpus....

> I hear that even Microsoft mice carry a license agreement forbidding you to attach them to a unit with more than two processors.  

Easy to explain.  They get confused, develop split personalities, and
develop inferiority complexes (after all, they only have one ball!). 
I'm sure you can understand Microsoft's reluctance to accept the
liability problems of miscreant mice.

IMHO Windows without a mouse isn't very useful and AFAIK
> nobody has passed the logon screen without a mouse or keyboard (or did I miss
> some huge development of telepathic communications equipment?).

...Hi, Mr. Nobody here.  And has.  I have successfully passed not only
the log-on screen, but recovered most of a crashed NTW 3.51
installation, sans mouse.  Didn't need no stinkin' fureign telepathy,
neither.  Just got myself a 100 gw radar transmitters and blasted them
electrons right where I wanted 'em.  (Course the neighbors were a bit
annoyed with that big Phased Array blocking ouyt the sunlight, and there
was that ugly dog that got too close and was toasted..... :-)

On Tue, 05 Nov 1996 10:12:44 -0500, in demon.ip.support.other, durgin (durgin
<durgin@durgin.net>) wrote:


>> Christopher Sharp wrote:
>
>
>...snip ...
>
>>if my memory servers me correctly the
>> shrink-wrapped NT 3.51 was licensed for up to 8.  
>
>Well, the old Sequent Winservers used to run up to 12 cpus....

So do the *relatively* new ones :-)

>> I hear that even Microsoft mice carry a license agreement forbidding you to
>attach them to a unit with more than two processors.  
>
>Easy to explain.  They get confused, develop split personalities, and
>develop inferiority complexes (after all, they only have one ball!). 
>I'm sure you can understand Microsoft's reluctance to accept the
>liability problems of miscreant mice.

Microsoft wouldn't accept the liability problems of putting a fly in the same
room as a little kid with a newspaper.

>>IMHO Windows without a mouse isn't very useful and AFAIK
>> nobody has passed the logon screen without a mouse or keyboard (or did I
>miss
>> some huge development of telepathic communications equipment?).
>
>...Hi, Mr. Nobody here.  And has.  I have successfully passed not only
>the log-on screen, but recovered most of a crashed NTW 3.51
>installation, sans mouse.  Didn't need no stinkin' fureign telepathy,
>neither.  Just got myself a 100 gw radar transmitters and blasted them
>electrons right where I wanted 'em.  (Course the neighbors were a bit
>annoyed with that big Phased Array blocking ouyt the sunlight, and there
>was that ugly dog that got too close and was toasted..... :-)

:-)

The comment was originally made before I removed a section on the Microsoft
Intelisense keyboard carrying a similar license.  It originally read "IMHO
Windows without a mouse and keyboard isn't very useful "... hence the way that
the rest went on to make a greater impact (not to mention to be more sensible
:-)

Shame about the toasted dog, I was hoping you were going to mention that some
weird twist of ironic fate had made it Bill Gates' :-)


Christopher


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