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Started by Scott Golby
Mon, 09 Nov 1992 05:21
Borland C++ INFO NEEDED!!!
Author: Scott Golby
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 05:21
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 05:21
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Hi Everyone, I want to write a Menu / File Manager program during the time off I have over the next 2 months and really should look at getting a new compiler I think. (I own Turbo C v1.5! :) Pretty old eh? ) So I was thinking Borland C++ (or maybe Turbo C++) in the version 3.0 or 3.1 range would be the go. On that subject I would really like to know the answers to a couple of questions I have. Main differences between Borland C++ and Turbo C++. How usefull is Turbo Vision, and what would it provide me? How usefull is the Applications Frame work, and what does it include? What is the difference between the Student version i of BC++ and the regular version. (Licence, Compile size etc) I am a student, but I would rather like to be able to sell or Shareware this application. Thanks for your time! -- * Scott Golby BBS +61-(0)47-36-6263 v32 * * University of Western Sydney, Nepean - Kingswood * * Secretary of the UWS-Nepean Computer Society (email compsoc) * * sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au FIDO : 3:713/616 *
Re: Borland C++ INFO NEEDED!!!
Author: George Mills
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 18:40
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 18:40
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Borlands line of compilers are confusing !!! OWL (Object windows library, very powerful). TurboVision (Windows "like" API for having a window like application under DOS) IDE-W (Integrated development environment under windows) IDE-D (Integrated development environment under DOS) TD (Debuger for DOS under DOS) TDW (debugger for Windows under DOS [not a typo, yes DOS]) DOCS and DOCS Command line compilers. Windows Help Compiler. DOS help compiler (Turbo Vision). Workshop (Dialog Box editor/Icon Editor etc.) Borland C++ (for windows) Has ALL this and more. As best I can tell "Application frameworks" means EVERYTHING. Including all DOCs. All the other compilers are basically subsets (repackaging). $150.00-$400.00 (I get confused on this wide range, perhaps it's sometimes the product below). Borland C++ (for DOS) I'm not sure if this animal exists. If it does it probably includes Turbo Vision. Turbo C++ for dos is a C++ compiler for dos I don't believe Turbo-Vision is included here but can be purchased seperately. $60.00 +/- Turbo C++ for windows is a C++ compiler for Windows Everything listed above minus all the DOS stuff (NO turbo vision, no command line compiling (IDE only). You cannot do anything in DOS with this (compile in nor compiler for). Less DOCs are supplied and they remove some flexibility in compiler optimizations. The DOCs that are missing I believe are online. $85.00
Re: Borland C++ INFO NEEDED!!!
Author: fred j mccall 575-3539
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:04
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:04
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In <mills.721334453@dialup.athena.lkg.dec.com> mills@athena.lkg.dec.com (George Mills) writes: >Borlands line of compilers are confusing !!! >OWL (Object windows library, very powerful). >TurboVision (Windows "like" API for having a window like application under DOS) >IDE-W (Integrated development environment under windows) >IDE-D (Integrated development environment under DOS) >TD (Debuger for DOS under DOS) >TDW (debugger for Windows under DOS [not a typo, yes DOS]) >DOCS and DOCS >Command line compilers. >Windows Help Compiler. >DOS help compiler (Turbo Vision). >Workshop (Dialog Box editor/Icon Editor etc.) >Borland C++ (for windows) Has ALL this and more. As best I can tell >"Application frameworks" means EVERYTHING. Including all DOCs. >All the other compilers are basically subsets (repackaging). >$150.00-$400.00 (I get confused on this wide range, perhaps it's sometimes >the product below). No such product, to my knowledge. The BORLAND C++ contains both DOS and Windows compilation options, includes both IDEs, includes a separate debugger, profiler, help compiler, workshop, etc. If you buy the Application Frameworks package with it, you get both OWL and TV. >Borland C++ (for DOS) I'm not sure if this animal exists. If it does >it probably includes Turbo Vision. See above. The BORLAND (as opposed to Turbo) compiler sets come with both DOS and Windows functionality. Well, they do unless Borland has redone their product line again. ;-) >Turbo C++ for dos is a C++ compiler for dos > I don't believe Turbo-Vision is included here but can be purchased > seperately. $60.00 +/- >Turbo C++ for windows is a C++ compiler for Windows > Everything listed above minus all the DOS stuff (NO turbo vision, > no command line compiling (IDE only). You cannot do anything in DOS > with this (compile in nor compiler for). Less DOCs are supplied > and they remove some flexibility in compiler optimizations. > The DOCs that are missing I believe are online. $85.00 -- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
Re: Borland C++ INFO NEEDED!!!
Author: Vax BULLET-IN-Board SysOps
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:59
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:59
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In article <mills.721334453@dialup.athena.lkg.dec.com>, mills@athena.lkg.dec.com (George Mills) writes... > >Borlands line of compilers are confusing !!! > >IDE-W (Integrated development environment under windows) >IDE-D (Integrated development environment under DOS) There is only one Borland IDE (BC.EXE), and it works for both DOS and Windows apps. Also bundled with BC is Turbo C++ for Windows(TCW.EXE), a windows-based IDE complete with menus and icons. What's the difference ? Beats me. Everything I've tried that works under BC.EXE compiles beautifully under TCW.EXE as well. >TD (Debuger for DOS under DOS) >TDW (debugger for Windows under DOS [not a typo, yes DOS]) no it isn't. try running TDW under DOS, and you'll get a "This program requires Microsoft Windows" error message. Despite its full text appearence, TDW is a Windows apps, except that it cannot be switched around like ordinary apps. >Workshop (Dialog Box editor/Icon Editor etc.) > >Borland C++ (for DOS) I'm not sure if this animal exists. If it does >it probably includes Turbo Vision. it doesn't. As far as i know, there is only a BC++ with the application frameworks, and another without. Both support DOS and Windows programming.
Re: Borland C++ INFO NEEDED!!!
Author: Kim Letkeman
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:59
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:59
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In article <16NOV199222594200@vms1.iscs.nus.sg> nuscss1@vms1.iscs.nus.sg (Vax BULLET-IN-Board SysOps) writes: | In article <mills.721334453@dialup.athena.lkg.dec.com>, mills@athena.lkg.dec.com (George Mills) writes... | > | >Borlands line of compilers are confusing !!! | > | >IDE-W (Integrated development environment under windows) | >IDE-D (Integrated development environment under DOS) | | There is only one Borland IDE (BC.EXE), and it works for both | DOS and Windows apps. Also bundled with BC is Turbo C++ for | Windows(TCW.EXE), a windows-based IDE complete with menus and | icons. What's the difference ? Beats me. Everything I've tried | that works under BC.EXE compiles beautifully under TCW.EXE as | well. With version 3.1 you get BC.EXE and BCW.EXE, both full blown Borland (read professional version) IDE's. BC is DOS hosted and BCW is Windows hosted. Very very nice. TCW no longer comes bundled with the package as it's not really needed. TCW is still available separately and the differences are mostly in options and optimization. BCW does a much better job (so says Borland.) -- Kim Letkeman kim@Software.Mitel.COM
Re: Borland C++ INFO NEEDED!!!
Author: Adam Elman
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:20
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:20
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nuscss1@vms1.iscs.nus.sg (Vax BULLET-IN-Board SysOps) writes: >In article <mills.721334453@dialup.athena.lkg.dec.com>, mills@athena.lkg.dec.com (George Mills) writes... >> >>Borlands line of compilers are confusing !!! >> >>IDE-W (Integrated development environment under windows) >>IDE-D (Integrated development environment under DOS) > There is only one Borland IDE (BC.EXE), and it works for both DOS and > Windows apps. Also bundled with BC is Turbo C++ for Windows(TCW.EXE), > a windows-based IDE complete with menus and icons. What's the > difference ? Beats me. Everything I've tried that works under BC.EXE > compiles beautifully under TCW.EXE as well. Actually, this is no longer the case; the difference was that the BC IDE supported code optimization that Turbo C++ didn't; the Windows IDE shipped with Borland C++ 3.1 supports all the optimizations which the DOS IDE does. Turbo C++ continues not to support these optimizations. However, the IDE's for both Windows and DOS are shipped in the same package. >>TD (Debuger for DOS under DOS) >>TDW (debugger for Windows under DOS [not a typo, yes DOS]) > no it isn't. try running TDW under DOS, and you'll get a > "This program requires Microsoft Windows" error message. Despite > its full text appearence, TDW is a Windows apps, except that it > cannot be switched around like ordinary apps. >>Workshop (Dialog Box editor/Icon Editor etc.) >> >>Borland C++ (for DOS) I'm not sure if this animal exists. If it does >>it probably includes Turbo Vision. > it doesn't. As far as i know, there is only a BC++ with the > application frameworks, and another without. Both > support DOS and Windows programming. The Application Frameworks includes both Turbo Vision for DOS, and ObjectWindows for Windows. Adam Elman aelman@cs.stanford.edu
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