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In article <1992Dec15.175306.17263@beaver.cs.washington.edu> simmons@cs.washington.edu (David Simmons) writes:
>I just received 2 offers from Symantec for the following bundle:
> * Zortech c++ 3.1  dos / windows
                ^^^

The first new version since 16 monthes?  Great.  As I was to change to
MS/Borland (-;  ....

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simmons@cs.washington.edu (David Simmons) writes:
: I just received 2 offers from Symantec for the following bundle:
:  * Zortech c++ 3.1  dos / windows
:    -  includes 16- and 32-bit dos extenders
:  * MultiScope debugger 2.0
:  * Whitewater Resource Toolkit 3.0
: 
: One offer was for $249, the other was for $169, so if you're interested
: in the bundle you should demand the cheaper price :-)

The $169 is if you are already a registered Zortech user.

Noel (ngorelic@speclab.cr.usgs.gov)

For all of Zortech's (aka Symmantec's) weaknesses, they do have the cheapest
32-bit DOS compiler that I've seen.  If you want big DOS programs, check it
out.

Incidentally, did anyone else notice the comment about ObjectWindows in the
Zortech add?  Are they including it?  Isn't that odd since they supposedly
licensed to use MFC at the Windows NT conference a few months ago.  I'm a
little disappointed to see them go the OWL route if that's what they're 
really doing.

-- 
 Rob Ryan
    rryan@panix.com

agallagh@slate.mines.colorado.edu (GALLAGHER ANDREA J ) writes:

>simmons@cs.washington.edu (David Simmons) writes:
>: I just received 2 offers from Symantec for the following bundle:
>:  * Zortech c++ 3.1  dos / windows
>:    -  includes 16- and 32-bit dos extenders
>:  * MultiScope debugger 2.0
>:  * Whitewater Resource Toolkit 3.0
>: 
>: One offer was for $249, the other was for $169, so if you're interested
>: in the bundle you should demand the cheaper price :-)

>The $169 is if you are already a registered Zortech user.


My offer was for $129.00.  It also included Whitewater Resource Toolkit
version 3.1 (not 3.0).  Wow, I already own version 3.5.  And, when I
called to find out what the WINC conversion libraries were, among
many other things, the "Pre Sale" Tech Support guy didn't know what
they were and had never heard of them.  Somethings just not right here.

??????????

Craig Ulbricht

rryan@panix.com (Rob Ryan) writes:

>For all of Zortech's (aka Symmantec's) weaknesses, they do have the cheapest
>32-bit DOS compiler that I've seen.  If you want big DOS programs, check it
>out.

>Incidentally, did anyone else notice the comment about ObjectWindows in the
>Zortech add?  Are they including it?  Isn't that odd since they supposedly
>licensed to use MFC at the Windows NT conference a few months ago.  I'm a
>little disappointed to see them go the OWL route if that's what they're 
>really doing.

>-- 

No, they are not shipping OWL with ZC++3.1.  Their Tech Support said
that ZC++3.1 is not compatible with OWL.  They did say that it was
compatible with Microsofts Windows class libraries.

Craig Ulbricht

In article <1992Dec15.175306.17263@beaver.cs.washington.edu> simmons@cs.washington.edu (David Simmons) writes:
>[stuff deleted]
>=sigh= I'd almost decided between BC++ and MSC7, now I have to consider
>Zortech too.  Too many choices!  :-(
>
>I have no connection with Symantec/Zortech.
>
>---Dave
>-- 
>
>Dave Simmons            | "Quod erat demonstrandum, baby.
>CS grad student         |                           (ooh you speak French)"
>U of Washington Dept CS |  --Thomas Dolby "Airhead"

I am still trying to decide between C7 and Zortech.  I hadn't considered BC++.
I have used C7 and find that it is much better than C6 (not difficult to do).
My requirements are:
	1) An optimizer that works.
	2) Needs to run under OS/2 and compile for Windows.
	3) Debug exe needs to work with CodeView or
		compiler product needs to come with a similar debugger.

Since I have only used Microsoft compiler products I am not familiar with
any advantages that the other products might have.  I am interested in any
information/opinions on all three products.  Thanks in advance.

Michael

In article <1992Dec17.161000.27062@u.washington.edu> ulbricht@carson.u.washington.edu (Craig Ulbricht) writes:
>From: ulbricht@carson.u.washington.edu (Craig Ulbricht)
>Subject: Re: FYI : Zortech c++ bundle deal
>Date: 17 Dec 92 16:10:00 GMT
>agallagh@slate.mines.colorado.edu (GALLAGHER ANDREA J ) writes:
>
>>simmons@cs.washington.edu (David Simmons) writes:
>>: I just received 2 offers from Symantec for the following bundle:
>>:  * Zortech c++ 3.1  dos / windows
>>:    -  includes 16- and 32-bit dos extenders
>>:  * MultiScope debugger 2.0
>>:  * Whitewater Resource Toolkit 3.0
>>: 
>>: One offer was for $249, the other was for $169, so if you're interested
>>: in the bundle you should demand the cheaper price :-)
>
>>The $169 is if you are already a registered Zortech user.
>
>
>My offer was for $129.00.  It also included Whitewater Resource Toolkit
>version 3.1 (not 3.0).  Wow, I already own version 3.5.  And, when I
>called to find out what the WINC conversion libraries were, among
>many other things, the "Pre Sale" Tech Support guy didn't know what
>they were and had never heard of them.  Somethings just not right here.
>
>??????????
>
>Craig Ulbricht

WINC is a set of libraries that allows DOS or UNIX command line type
programs to compile and run in a MS Windows window.

Ted Wright (wright@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov)
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In article <1992Dec17.161000.27062@u.washington.edu>, ulbricht@carson.u.washington.edu (Craig Ulbricht) writes:
|> agallagh@slate.mines.colorado.edu (GALLAGHER ANDREA J ) writes:
|> 
|> >simmons@cs.washington.edu (David Simmons) writes:
|> >: I just received 2 offers from Symantec for the following bundle:
|> >:  * Zortech c++ 3.1  dos / windows
|> >:    -  includes 16- and 32-bit dos extenders
|> >:  * MultiScope debugger 2.0
|> >:  * Whitewater Resource Toolkit 3.0
|> >: 
|> >: One offer was for $249, the other was for $169, so if you're interested
|> >: in the bundle you should demand the cheaper price :-)
|> 
|> >The $169 is if you are already a registered Zortech user.
|> 
|> 
|> My offer was for $129.00.  It also included Whitewater Resource Toolkit

Mine was for $129 also.

I called the pre-support number and confirmed that you *CANNOT* debug
32 bit code with what is in the package! You have to buy a debugger from
another company (FlashTEk?). Unless the 32-bit code is excellent and the
compiler extremely stable I will probably return it, although I really
do need a 32-bit compiler whose code is compatible with VCPI & DPMI, and
Zortech is the best bet to date, I really wish Borland would hurry up
and get their 32 bit act together.
-- 
Jim Morris, Email: jegm@esd.sgi.com  Voice: (415) 390-5136

In article <1992Dec17.161000.27062@u.washington.edu> ulbricht@carson.u.washington.edu (Craig Ulbricht) writes:
>
>called to find out what the WINC conversion libraries were, among
>many other things, the "Pre Sale" Tech Support guy didn't know what
>they were and had never heard of them.  Somethings just not right here.

The WINC library will just replace the standard IO functions so that
they run in a window.

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