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Re: Running Dos Games from Win95

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From: Jon
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:00
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On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:01:46 +0100, Colin Price
<Colin@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <ergJ0fYa9GA.131@uppssnewspub05.moswest.msn.net>, fsm
><fsmartinmsf@ij.net> writes
>>this is a test
>>fsm
>>Kate & Andrew wrote in message <01bd620d$12c5ed20$b97438cb@katrinaa>...
>>>Hi all,
>>>I've got a few questions regarding running my sound blaster in Dos games,
>>>while running Windows 95.
>>>I want to play a few games (such as Transport Tycoon) but when I run the
>>>computer in Dos Mode, the sound blaster will not work.
>>>
>>>I assume that I have to re-install the sound blaster while in dos mode, but
>>>this caused another problem because the computer does not have enough
>>>memory to install the software. (even though I've got 16Mb of Ram)
>>>
>>>I am new to computers so I might be missing the obvious.....but I have a
>>>question....if you install anything in  Windows 95 (such as SoundCard) does
>>>this still work while you are in Dos Mode, and if not how do I get around
>>>this problem?
>>>
>>>Any help would be appreciated....
>>>
>fsm - you have not helped the askers of the question at all by hijacking
>their message. Test messages belong in appropriate test groups (in
>Demon, demon.test, and I'm sure there are other similar groups).
>
>Kate and Andrew - you need to have the appropriate driver(s) in
>autoexec.bat (probably line will start SET BLASTER= followed by various
>parameters). Check your manual for details. Ask again if you need help
>with how to enter the line(s) needed if you can't find a way of doing
>this automatically using the set up program. You are probably right -
>you may have to install more memory.
>
>Have you tried running the software from a dos prompt from within
>Windows 95? This ought to solve the driver problem, but you may still
>have the memory one. (I'm assuming at the moment you are trying dos mode
>from boot up - apologies if I have misunderstood).
>
>Regards,

Pardon me, Colin, but I suspect that this may not work.  Some DOS
games just don't run properly from a DOS box.  Kate and Andrew may
need to install the 16-bit DOS drivers from the disk that came with
their SoundBlaster.  The drivers that come with Win95 will work in a
DOS box but not in pure DOS mode.

If their card is pnp, they need to install the Creative pnp manager
first, and then install the drivers.  Drivers can be installed from
Win95, but the pnp manager must be installed from pure DOS mode and it
has to load in conventional memory, which it needs almost all of.
Their 16 MB of RAM is _not_ the problem.

I had this same problem with one of my machines, and I tried
everything under the sun to load apps high and free up conventional
memory, only to get an error every time I tried to install pnp
manager.  In my travels, I did come upon others who got it to work,
but I never was able to get "system" out of my conventional memory
(it's not there on my other machines, naturally).

I've asked before, but if anyone does have the DOS drivers for
SoundBlaster (I have SB 16 pnp), would you please help me get them so
I can install them manually (perhaps you could post them to a binaries
group)?

Yes, I know that the drivers are available on the website, but I need
them in extracted form!

Finally, Colin is right in that if you can get a game to run in a DOS
box, you can get sound this way.  Unfortunately, Kate and Andrew said
they are "new to computers", because another problem is that many DOS
games (particularly older ones) want that sound card to be on IRQ 5 or
7 (and they are probably saying "what's an IRQ" and shaking their
heads right about now.  I seem to recall, for example, that "Blake
Stone" had no sound if the card was on IRQ10, and "One Must Fall 2097"
crashed from a DOS box until I shuffled some things to get the sound
card to IRQ5.

To see what IRQ your sound card is on. click the start button, move to
"settings", click on "control panel", double click the "system" icon,
click the "device manager" tab, click "computer" at the top, click the
"properties" button, then the "view resources" button, with the "IRQ"
function selected.  See how simple Microsoft has made everything for
us? :)  Kate and Andrew - if your IRQ for your SoundBlaster is not 5
or 7, check back here and we'll help you get it right (hopefully :)).


Regards,

Jon

"There's always a way around any computer problem, unless of course
you want to have a life."
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Subject: Re: Running Dos Games from Win95
Date: 1998/04/18
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