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George <sing.loon@uq.net.au> wrote in message
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> I have big problem - my computer running Windows 95osr 2
> version B crashed and on restart the auto scan disk ran -
> I deleted some messed up files and actually they were important.

> Then when I went into Win95 I connected to the internet and then tried to
> open a Netscape browser 4.5 and the message came up with 'can not find
> wsock.dll'  Then it said I should restart my computer - that  I did , then
the
> computer came up with a message saying that 2 files were deleted

> 1. Javasup .. something and
> 2. ndis.drv or something

> It then said can not find or load mouse.drv and that my system.ini points
to it.

> It then said reinstall windows...

> Problem I now only have Windows 95 original and no version 2.

> Also I can not reformat to erase all data on my harddrive
> since I have important study, work and recent web site
> files that have not yet been backed up.

> What can I do, I am using my handheld pc to write
> this email as the only email device I have left.

> Can I buy a new harddrive format that with a new purchased Win 95 Osr 2
> and get the computer up and running and then install my old harddrive as a
> primary slave drive and then copy over my important data?

Yes. It would be safest to do the install with the original drive not even
plugged into the system, get the new Win9x up and working well and then
put the original drive back in as a slave and copy off the stuff that
matters.

You might want to consider Win98 instead of OSR2, it will do that
just as well, and has some useful enhancements over OSR2 too.

> If I did a reinstall with a reformat will all my files be there?

Not sure what you mean here, whether you are asking about say just
buying a copy of OSR2 without a new hard drive, using that to install
over the current hard drive. You certainly dont want to do a reformat
in that situation, that will certainly lose the data you want to keep.

You want to bear in mind that you may well have a problem
with the original hard drive, the one that caused the original
crash. Corse it could be somewhere other than the hard drive too.

Certainly the safest thing for your data is to buy a new hard drive
and a FAT32 capable version of Win9x and attempt a clean install
on the new drive with the original drive removed, and make sure
that that is all working well before you put the original drive back
in the system to copy the data off that is important.

And important to be very careful, you dont get many chances.

> I have a start up disk for this computer that I created
> along time ago for this computer.  Is this of any use?

Depends on how long ago. If it was before the OSR2
install, no real use if the drive is formatted FAT32.

And even if you can boot off the floppy and see the hard drive,
its taking a lot more risk with your data when you dont know what
caused the original failure. Only you can say how important that data is.

A decent sized drive only costs a coupla hundred bucks, and you can always
sell it once you have got the original back if you really need the money.

> I only have a Iomega zip disk version of Win 95 OSR 2 can this
> be used with the Guest driver and ms-dos drivers for my zip drive?

Again, some of that stuff is feasible, but at considerable risk to the data
you want.

> If I can extract a mouse.drv from a cab file on
> my zip disk version - in which cab file is it in?

The problem is much more serious than that.

I always do a complete reinstall if/when Win 95 or 98 starts playing
silly buggars.  If you do a fresh install with a re-format, then you
are going to lose all exisitng data on the reformatted
drive/partition.

I would suggenst that you boot up you machine in either safe mode,
i.e. hit the F8 key just before Win 95 starts loading and choose safe
mode.  If this doesn't work, then boot up in Dos mode, again this can
be chosen from the F8 menu before Win 95 starts to load.  if this
doesn't worj then try booting from your resue disk that you say you
have.  

Once you have access to the data on your drive, then you should backup
every data file that you cannot bear to lose.  I suggest a backup of
the My Documents folder.  Copy the favourites folder to preserve your
browser bookmarks.  Take a wander through you Program Files folder to
see what apps are there, and where they may store their data files and
back those up too.

Once you are sure you can stand losing the remaining data on the C
drive, then you can either attempt to re-install windows over the
exisitng windows setup, (make sure you choose to replace any newer
files on your drive with the older ones on your Win 95 install media).
You may get lucky and get back a reasonably stable system and most of
you old apps will function as if nothing happened, and there is
nothing more to do

However, if this produces a system that is not as stable as you would
like, then give the system a good clean out.  Reformat the drive and
do a clean install.  Reinstall the apps and then replace the backed up
files and folders and whoilla, you should have you system back.

Hope this helps.

P.S Make sure you backup your email and news data files.  I hate
loasing all my email.
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On 7 Jan 1999 18:25:46 GMT, "George" <sing.loon@uq.net.au> wrote:

:Hi 
:
:I have big problem - my computer running Windows 95osr 2 version B 
:crashed and on restart the auto scan disk ran - I deleted some messed up 
:files and actually they were important.
:
:Then when I went into Win95 I connected to the internet and then tried to 
:open a Netscape browser 4.5 and the message came up with 'can not find 
:wsock.dll'  Then it said I should restart my computer - that  I did , then the 
:computer came up with a message saying that 2 files were deleted
:
:1. Javasup .. something and
:2. ndis.drv or something
:
:It then said can not find or load mouse.drv and that my system.ini points to it.
:
:It then said reinstall windows...
:
:Problem I now only have Windows 95 original and no version 2.
:
:Also I can not reformat to erase all data on my harddrive since I have 
:important study, work and recent web site files that have not yet been backed 
:up.
:
:What can I do, I am using my handheld pc to write this email as the only 
:email device I have left.
:
:Can I buy a new harddrive format that with a new purchased Win 95 Osr 2 
:and get the computer up and running and then install my old harddrive as a 
:primary slave drive and then copy over my important data?
:
:If I did a reinstall with a reformat will all my files be there?
:
:I have a start up disk for this computer that I created along time ago for this 
:computer.  Is this of any use?  I only have a Iomega zip disk version of Win 95 
:OSR 2 can this be used with the Guest driver and ms-dos drivers for my zip 
:drive?
:
:If I can extract a mouse.drv from a cab file on my zip disk version - in which  
:cab file is it in?
:
:Excuse the cross posting but I need access to my web site files on my 
:computer for continual updates of my entertainment site as well as work 
:related stuff.  Please I need help fast and I will be very grateful for any help 
:that goes my way

You could try replacing those files from the Win95 CD. Use the
same process for your Zip Disk cab files.

If you can access your CD from a Dos startup disk or F8 Dos you
can extract them. Get the mouse.drv first.

From Dos get into the Win95 directory on the CD and enter:

extract /a win95_02.cab mouse.drv /L C:\windows\system

That command will search all *.cab files starting with cab #2 in
sequential order and extract mouse.drv to the windows\system
directory.

Reboot and you may have the mouse. 

Check the Wsock.dll file name again then use this to get it.
Insert the correct name. 
extract /a win95_02.cab wsock.dll /L C:\windows\system

If you do get it you may be able to get on the net with your
browser.

To search all cab files for a file but not extract get into the
directory that has the cab files and enter:
extract /a /d win95_02.cab Myfile.exe |more

Replace Myfile.exe with the file you want.

If you have a Windows\sysbckup directory you can use TweakUI to
restore damaged or missing system files, under Repair tab. The
Wsock??.dll file should be in this directory. If so just copy it
to the Windows directory.

You will lose everything by formatting. If none of this gets you
back in business I would get the Win98 Upgrade CD and install it
from Dos (run Setup.exe). IMHO it's far superior to Win95b. The
Upgrade from Dos will give you the Custom Menu from where you can
either Upgrade or do a "clean" install. All your settings should
be preserved. They were for me. Running Setup from Windows starts
copying files right away with no options, so be careful.

Post if you need more help.

Regards,
 
Bill Watt Sr.  bwatt@epix.net     http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/  
posting from comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc

You may have to reinstall...but be prepared that it may stuff up everything,
and you well may have to format and reinstall from scratch.
In that situation, I usually connect it to another H/D and carry the things
I need across (just in case). Prior to trying the reinstall.
You could if you have a large H/D do an install to a different directory say
windoze 95 or 98.
This will save you losing all your info.
Joy

Rachel Polanskis wrote in message <778uhv$md8$2@juno.virago.org.au>...
>In article <772u7a$qr9$1@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au>,
> "George" <sing.loon@uq.net.au> writes:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have big problem - my computer running Windows 95osr 2 version B
>> crashed and on restart the auto scan disk ran - I deleted some messed up
>> files and actually they were important.
>
><snip>
>
>> It then said reinstall windows...
>
>Just say NO to Microsoft.
>
>
>rachel
>
>--
>Rachel Polanskis                 Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney,
Australia
>grove@zeta.org.au                http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html
>r.polanskis@nepean.uws.edu.au    http://www.nepean.uws.edu.au/ccd/
> "Yow!  Am I having fun yet?!" - John Howard^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Zippy the
Pinhead

Thanks everyone who emailed - I eventually did a reformat - and saved some
data and reinstalled everything....

the good news is my computer is back up running with all my apps reinstalled
and works faster and better than before....no bad news as yet.

--
George

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