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Re: iPentium costs per die

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From: Carl Rohman
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 08:28
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hyiu@cats.ucsc.edu (Henry Yiu) wrote:

>On Tue, 09 Apr 1996 13:09:30 GMT, cprohman@ix.netcom.com (Carl Rohman)
>wrote:

>>simc@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Falchion) wrote:
>>>I think the development costs for the Pentium were in the 1 to 3 billion
>>>range.
>>
>>>-- Simon (simc@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au)
>>And Cyrix only spends $28million/year on R&D, so at most they could have
>>$75 million in the 6x86 figuring 3 years work.  Amazing.
>>

>Of course after they stole all the work Intel had already done.  

AMD stole the Intel work when they used Intel microcode for their 486
series.  Cyrix had to design it from the ground up, which is why early
Cyrix chips such as the 486slc/dlc had a few problems. It also explains why
Cyrix had less trouble going to a 686-level chip than AMD.  If you are
talking about design features such as pipelining and out-of-order
execution, then all microprocessor designers "steal" good ideas from one
another.  CISC steals from RISC, etc.
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Subject: Re: iPentium costs per die
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 08:28:38 GMT
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