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Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:27
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: Code Jockey
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:27
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:27
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davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen) writes: > True, but the price of the CPU and motherboard is a pretty small > part of total system cost, unless you want a server for your PC. And > prices for the brand name stuff are in free fall, so a short wait > will usually get you the performance level you couldn't afford. if > you want the best there is, that will never be cheap. The 6x86 (P166+) is runs at 133 mhz in Triton based pentium motherboards. Many of these motherboards (including my Tyan Titan3) can go to 200 mhz. Since the 6x86 can process more instructions per clock cycle than the pentium. Clock for clock cycle the 6x86 trounces the pentium. That is compare oranges to oranges, a 133 mhz 6x86 to a 133 mhz pentium. The 686 beats the pentium in integer and floating point performance. If Cyrix makes a 200 mhz 6x86, I have a chance for higher performance without spending any money on a new motherboard than I ever will with an Intel 200 mhz pentium (wow a P240+ :). That is if Cyrix makes one....
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: David T. Wang
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:15
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:15
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Code Jockey () wrote: : davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen) writes: : > True, but the price of the CPU and motherboard is a pretty small : > part of total system cost, unless you want a server for your PC. And : > prices for the brand name stuff are in free fall, so a short wait : > will usually get you the performance level you couldn't afford. if : > you want the best there is, that will never be cheap. : The 6x86 (P166+) is runs at 133 mhz in Triton based pentium motherboards. : Many of these motherboards (including my Tyan Titan3) can go to 200 mhz. : Since the 6x86 can process more instructions per clock cycle than : the pentium. : Clock for clock cycle the 6x86 trounces the pentium. That is compare : oranges to oranges, a 133 mhz 6x86 to a 133 mhz pentium. The 686 beats : the pentium in integer and floating point performance. not floating point. Apparently Pentium stil has the more advanced floating point unit, and anything FPU intensive, the plain old P5@133 will still outrun M1@133. : If Cyrix makes a 200 mhz 6x86, I have a chance for higher performance : without spending any money on a new motherboard than I ever will with : an Intel 200 mhz pentium (wow a P240+ :). That is if Cyrix makes one.... It's okay, Intel has the P55C coming out by the end of the year, with the new MMX instructions, as well as larger Icache and Dcache, so the performance per Mhz will improve as well.
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: Erwin Kocken
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:00
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:00
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Again guys, Adjust your adressing !! We at the comp.sys.MAC newsgroup are not really interested in Cyrix... Erwin Kocken Forandre The Netherlands
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: David Sharp
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 21:47
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 21:47
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In message <4jeduo$1u2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> - veakblad@Glue.umd.edu (David T Wang) writes: >not floating point. Apparently Pentium stil has the more advanced floating >point unit, and anything FPU intensive, the plain old P5@133 will still outrun >M1@133. Are you sure? The 6x86P-133 is a 110MHz chip. The 133 MHz 6x86 is the P166+. Regards, David Sharp ds9430@slip.net
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: Dana H. Taylor Jr.
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 06:59
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 06:59
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>It's okay, Intel has the P55C coming out by the end of the year, with
>the new MMX instructions, as well as larger Icache and Dcache, so the
>performance per Mhz will improve as well.
I just bought a Cyrix P120 (100MHZ) 686. I have it over-clocked to 120
MHZ. (20 MHZ greater than what it should be at) It goes super fast! I
only paid $209 for the CPU and $189 for an ASUS PCI motherboard. I am
very happy with the performance so far. It goes a lot faster than my
Pentium 100 at work. Any way, my question is : Is it dangerous to
over-clock the CPU? Should I set it back to 100. Will my system
over-heat?
Any help would be appreciated,
Dana
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: Stephen Knilans
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 13:41
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 13:41
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In article <4jt7ka$bqc@news.ios.com> danat@tribeca.ios.com (Dana H. Taylor Jr.) writes: > >>It's okay, Intel has the P55C coming out by the end of the year, with >>the new MMX instructions, as well as larger Icache and Dcache, so the >>performance per Mhz will improve as well. > >I just bought a Cyrix P120 (100MHZ) 686. I have it over-clocked to 120 >MHZ. (20 MHZ greater than what it should be at) It goes super fast! I >only paid $209 for the CPU and $189 for an ASUS PCI motherboard. I am >very happy with the performance so far. It goes a lot faster than my >Pentium 100 at work. Any way, my question is : Is it dangerous to >over-clock the CPU? It COULD be. Some work, some don't. >Should I set it back to 100. If you need the speed, just watch it closely. Otherwise... >Will my system >over-heat? It could. WATCH IT! > >Any help would be appreciated, > Dana >
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: Anthony de Vries
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 14:30
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 14:30
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Dana H. Taylor Jr. wrote: > > >It's okay, Intel has the P55C coming out by the end of the year, with > >the new MMX instructions, as well as larger Icache and Dcache, so the > >performance per Mhz will improve as well. > > I just bought a Cyrix P120 (100MHZ) 686. I have it over-clocked to 120 > MHZ. (20 MHZ greater than what it should be at) It goes super fast! I > only paid $209 for the CPU and $189 for an ASUS PCI motherboard. I am > very happy with the performance so far. It goes a lot faster than my > Pentium 100 at work. Any way, my question is : Is it dangerous to > over-clock the CPU? Should I set it back to 100. Will my system > over-heat? > YES!!!! It can be very dangerous to overclock the CPU. My brother thought he had bought an Intel DX2-66 over year ago. He had no problems at all the first 8 months, and after that some times some (windows) programs would crash after a while. (two hours or so) (Well who would be surprised?) But problems increased, up to a point where OS/2 couldn't be loaded at all, Windows crashed after some minutes and any DOS4GW games crashed almost immediately. DOS real mode programs had no trouble at all!!! (Tornado and Pinball) It turned out that the chip was an OVERCLOCKED AMD Dx2-50.... Clearly as the problems had gotten so much worse the chip has been damaged internally. It did run ok on 50Mhz again, but rather than take the risk that it was allready too much damaged, so that the problems would come back, we decided to just put a new DX2-66 in it. (A real one this time.) ALL problems we ever had with programs crashing or anything else are gone! All works ok again. So even if your processor seems to work OK when overclocked, that doesn't mean it will do so in 6 months still. You REALLY can damage the chip, even if it seems to work ok. Anthony. P.S. a friend had bought a similar computer. While he didn't have much problems, his ray tracing programs always crashed after a while. He checked, found out he had an overclocked DX2-50 also, and also bought a new real DX2-66. His programs never crash anymore.
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: Luka
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 17:06
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 17:06
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Dana H. Taylor Jr. wrote:
>
> >It's okay, Intel has the P55C coming out by the end of the year, with
> >the new MMX instructions, as well as larger Icache and Dcache, so the
> >performance per Mhz will improve as well.
>
> I just bought a Cyrix P120 (100MHZ) 686. I have it over-clocked to 120
> MHZ. (20 MHZ greater than what it should be at) It goes super fast! I
> only paid $209 for the CPU and $189 for an ASUS PCI motherboard. I am
> very happy with the performance so far. It goes a lot faster than my
> Pentium 100 at work. Any way, my question is : Is it dangerous to
> over-clock the CPU? Should I set it back to 100. Will my system
> over-heat?
>
> Any help would be appreciated,
> Dana
I found this post in one of the newsgroups a while ago and I saved it.
It gives you statistics on overclocking (not written by me; the guy's
sig is at the end)
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Subject: Re: Overclocking is safe(almost)..<Read this>
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 00:47:53 +0100
From: Stian Larsen <stlarsen@telepost.no>
Organization: TelePost Public Access
Newsgroups: alt.games.quake,rec.games.computer.quake.misc
References: <4gbtsc$j5p@sundog.tiac.net> <4gdpt3$qhh@library.erc.clarkson.edu>
<312e5088.492330@news.neosoft.com> <4hd21q$8nl@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <4hhk1i$f9r@jari
Here's a doc i got:
Many individuals have overclocked systems and they have experienced no
recognizable problems. CPU manufacturers warn that problems may not result
in an immediate catastrophic failure. That there may only be very subtle
and difficult to notice problems. For example, only one instruction with a
particular data pattern may fail. Additionally, they warn that there may
be long term cumulative damage that reduces the lifespan of the CPU. This
survey was an attempt to gather some data on the reliability, or at least
perceived reliability, of overclocking. It also attempts to gather data on
how many users are willing to overclock important systems. This survey is
not an endorsement of overclocking, proceed at you own risk (physical
damage, run-time reliability).
This survey is over. The questions and results are presented together in
this document to help you interpret the results. Please do not respond
with additional results. Other questions or comments may be sent via
e-mail to:
adtribelli@acm.org
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What type of CPU do you have?
Manufacturer:
Model:
Speed (manufacturer recommended):
Cooling (none, heat sink, fan, peltier, ...):
At what speed (overclocked) was it run at?
Did it work?
If no, was the problem obvious (system hangs) or subtle (one program
misbehaves)?
Did the problem go away when the CPU was returned to its recommended
speed?
If no, why do you think this was an overclocking problem then?
If the machine being tested experiences a subtle failure (generates bad
data) in the future, is it possible that there will be a significant
amount of time or money lost (Yes/No)?
Any interesting observations?
Any suggestions on how to make a system work?
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Results so far (15Jul95-24Jan96):
Failure Important Pass
CPU MHz Cooling Tested Passed Obvious Subtle Systems Rate
------------------- --- ------- ------ ------ ------- ------ --------- ----
Harris 286-16 20 none 1 1 0 0 1 100%
Intel 386DX-16 20 none 1 1 0 0 0 100%
25 none 1 1 0 0 1 100%
AMD 386SX-25 33 none 1 1 0 0 0 100%
AMD 386DX-40 50 none 1 0 1 0 0 0%
sink 1 0 1 0 1 0%
Intel 486SX-20 25 fan 1 1 0 0 0 100%
33 none 1 1 0 0 0 100%
Intel 486DX-20 33 none 1 1 0 0 0 100%
Intel 486SX-20 33 fan 2 2 0 0 0 100%
Intel 486SX-25 33 none 4 4 0 0 2 100%
sink 1 1 0 0 1 100%
fan 10 10 0 0 2 100%
40 none 2 2 0 0 0 100%
sink 2 2 0 0 1 100%
fan 8 7 0 1 4 88%
50 fan 3 3 0 0 0 100%
487SX-25 33 fan 1 1 0 0 1 100%
40 fan 1 0 1 0 1 0%
AMD 486SX-25 40 fan 1 1 0 0 1 100%
Intel 486DX-25 33 fan 1 1 0 0 1 100%
Intel 486SX-33 40 none 5 4 1 0 4 80%
sink 1 1 0 0 0 100%
fan 9 6 2 1 3 67%
50 none 2 1 1 0 0 50%
fan 4 2 2 0 1 50%
AMD 486SX-33 45 none 1 1 0 0 0 100%
UMC U5S-33 50 fan 1 1 0 0 0 100%
Intel 486DX-33 40 none 5 2 3 0 3 40%
sink 3 2 1 0 2 67%
fan 11 11 0 0 8 100%
50 sink 2 2 0 0 1 100%
fan 1 1 0 0 0 100%
66 sink 1 0 1 0 1 0%
AMD 486DX-33 40 fan 1 1 0 0 1 100%
AMD 486DX-40 50 none 1 1 0 0 1 100%
fan 4 4 0 0 2 100%
peltier 1 0 1 0 0 0%
Cyrix 486SLC-40 50 ? 1 0 1 0 0 0%
Cyrix 486DX-40 50 sink 1 1 0 0 1 100%
UMC U5 Super-40 50 fan 1 0 0 1 1 0%
IBM BLDX2-66 80 none 1 1 0 0 0 100%
fan 1 0 1 0 1 0%
Intel 486DX2-50 60 fan 2 2 0 0 2 100%
66 none 1 1 0 0 0 100%
sink 3 3 0 0 2 100%
fan 10 8 2 0 6 80%
80 fan 3 2 1 0 2 67%
peltier 1 1 0 0 0 100%
AMD 486DX2-50 66 fan 1 1 0 0 0 100%
Cyrix 486DX2-50 66 sink 1 1 0 0 1 100%
fan 1 1 0 0 1 100%
100 * sink 1 0 1 0 0 0%
Intel 486DX2-66 80 none 4 0 4 0 2 0%
sink 5 0 5 0 2 0%
fan 50 36 11 3 28 72%
peltier 2 2 0 0 2 100%
84 fan 1 0 1 0 1 0%
100 fan 1 1 0 0 1 100%
AMD 486DX2-66 80 none 2 2 0 0 1 100%
sink 3 2 1 0 3 67%
fan 10 7 2 1 8 70%
100 fan 4 4 0 0 4 100%
Cyrix 486DX2-66 80 sink 3 1 2 0 0 33%
fan 4 2 2 0 0 50%
SGS-Thom. 486DX2-66 80 fan 2 2 0 0 1 100%
84 sink 1 1 0 0 0 100%
90 sink 1 0 1 0 0 0%
AMD 486DX2-80 100 none 1 0 0 1 1 0%
sink 1 1 0 0 0 100%
fan 20 14 5 1 11 70%
peltier 1 1 0 0 1 100%
120 fan 3 0 3 0 3 0%
peltier 1 1 0 0 1 100%
Intel 486DX4OD-100 120 sink 1 1 0 0 0 100%
fan 1 1 0 0 0 100%
Intel 486DX4-100 120 ? 1 0 1 0 0 0%
sink 2 0 1 1 0 0%
fan 10 1 8 1 6 10%
150 sink 1 0 1 0 0 0%
fan 1 0 1 0 0 0%
AMD 486DX4-100 120 none 1 1 0 0 1 100%
sink 1 0 1 0 1 0%
fan 26 14 9 3 13 54%
150 fan 1 1 0 0 0 100%
AMD 486DX4-120 130 fan 1 1 0 0 1 100%
133 none 1 0 1 0 1 0%
150 fan 4 0 4 0 2 0%
peltier 1 0 1 0 1 0%
Intel P24T-63 83 fan 1 1 0 0 0 100%
Intel P24T-83 100 fan 2 2 0 0 1 100%
Intel Pentium-60 66 sink 3 2 1 0 1 67%
fan 6 4 1 1 5 67%
peltier 1 1 0 0 1 100%
Intel Pentium-75 90 sink 6 6 0 0 1 100%
fan 46 44 1 1 24 96%
peltier 1 1 0 0 1 100%
100 sink 3 3 0 0 2 100%
fan 39 32 6 1 25 82%
peltier 2 2 0 0 1 100%
120 sink 3 2 1 0 2 67%
fan 12 7 5 0 5 58%
peltier 2 1 1 0 0 50%
133 fan 5 2 3 0 2 40%
peltier 1 1 0 0 1 100%
150 * fan 2 0 2 0 2 0%
166 fan 1 0 1 0 1 0%
180 fan 1 0 1 0 1 0%
200 fan 1 0 1 0 1 0%
Intel Pentium-90 100 ? 1 1 0 0 1 100%
sink 5 3 2 0 3 60%
fan 64 51 11 2 41 80%
peltier 6 5 0 1 2 83%
113 fan 1 0 1 0 1 0%
120 sink 4 4 0 0 3 100%
fan 14 8 6 0 9 57%
peltier 6 4 2 0 2 67%
133 sink 1 0 1 0 1 0%
fan 5 0 5 0 3 0%
peltier 2 0 2 0 1 0%
Nexgen P90 100 fan 2 2 0 0 0 100%
Intel Pentium-100 120 sink 2 1 1 0 1 50%
fan 19 12 7 0 16 63%
peltier 2 1 1 0 1 50%
133 sink 1 0 1 0 0 0%
fan 6 0 5 1 3 0%
peltier 2 1 1 0 1 50%
Cyrix 5x86-100 120 fan 3 3 0 0 2 100%
Intel Pentium-120 133 sink 2 2 0 0 1 100%
fan 11 9 1 1 6 82%
peltier 2 0 0 2 1 0%
Intel Pentium-133 150 fan 5 2 2 1 3 40%
166 fan 2 1 1 0 2 50%
180 fan 6 4 2 0 2 67%
Motorola PPC601-66 80 fan 1 1 0 0 1 100%
OVERALL 613 426 162 25 341
69% 26% 4% 56%
* Marks experiments where permanent damage was observed and reported:
Cyrix 486DX2-50 => 100, would not boot when returned to 50Mhz.
Intel Pentium-75 => 150, burning/smoke after 5 minutes of use.
Typical Problems reported by those surveyed:
% of
failed
systems
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CPU permanently damaged: 2 1.07%
Would not boot: 74 39.57%
Hung or reset soon after boot: 46 24.60%
Ocassional hanging, resets, crashes, or odd behaviour: 58 31.02%
Ran fine at first but developed problems at a later date: 4 2.14%
Successful corrective actions reported by those surveyed:
% of
passed
systems
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Had to adjust wait states for memory: 17 3.99%
Had to disable the CPU's internal cache: 11 2.58%
Had to disable the CPU's external cache: 7 1.64%
Had to disable MB mode-3 and 32-bit transfer to boot HD: 1 0.23%
Had to adjust BUS speed: 14 3.29%
Had to use heat sink compound: 2 0.47%
Had to add CPU fan: 5 1.17%
Had to add peltier cooler: 2 0.47%
Had to use an additional system fan: 3 0.70%
Had to use an additional CPU fan card adjacent to the CPU: 2 0.47%
Had to cool CPU and PC chipset: 1 0.23%
Had to open system case: 8 1.88%
Had to use air conditioner to keep room below 85 deg F: 1 0.23%
Had to change voltage jumper from 3.3v to 3.5v: 1 0.23%
Interesting observations reported by those surveyed:
An early stepping of the CPU failed, a later stepping seemed to work.
A decrease in performance of an accelerated PCI video card.
An increase in performance of an EIDE disk transfer rate.
CPU works, but graphics card fails.
CPU works, but built-in EIDE controller fails.
CPU works, but system bus runs at slower speed.
Speed increase hard to notice without faster system RAM.
Extra wait states negated additional CPU speed.
Suspects CPU may have been falsely "remarked" at a higher speed.
S3 and Cirrus video adapters worked, but Tseng failed in same system.
BIOS misidentified I/O ports.
Seemed to run fine for 3 months, then random hangs were experienced.
BIOS only detected half of installed memory.
--
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Tony Tribelli
adtribelli@acm.org
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Decide for yourself (I decided not to overclock
Luka
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: Bryon Wasserman
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 22:20
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 22:20
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danat@tribeca.ios.com (Dana H. Taylor Jr.) wrote: >>It's okay, Intel has the P55C coming out by the end of the year, with >>the new MMX instructions, as well as larger Icache and Dcache, so the >>performance per Mhz will improve as well. >I just bought a Cyrix P120 (100MHZ) 686. I have it over-clocked to 120 >MHZ. (20 MHZ greater than what it should be at) It goes super fast! I >only paid $209 for the CPU and $189 for an ASUS PCI motherboard. I am >very happy with the performance so far. It goes a lot faster than my >Pentium 100 at work. Any way, my question is : Is it dangerous to >over-clock the CPU? Should I set it back to 100. Will my system >over-heat? >Any help would be appreciated, > Dana Out of curiousity , where did you find it for $209 dollars? Bryon Wasserman btw@mps.ohio-state.edu
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: Kevin Chua
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 22:25
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 22:25
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Dana H. Taylor Jr. wrote: > > >It's okay, Intel has the P55C coming out by the end of the year, with > >the new MMX instructions, as well as larger Icache and Dcache, so the > >performance per Mhz will improve as well. > > I just bought a Cyrix P120 (100MHZ) 686. I have it over-clocked to 120 > MHZ. (20 MHZ greater than what it should be at) It goes super fast! I > only paid $209 for the CPU and $189 for an ASUS PCI motherboard. I am > very happy with the performance so far. It goes a lot faster than my > Pentium 100 at work. Any way, my question is : Is it dangerous to > over-clock the CPU? Should I set it back to 100. Will my system > over-heat? > > Any help would be appreciated, > Dana I am doing the same thing with my Gigabyte MB, so far no prob. at all. I tried to oc it to 133, then it starts screwing up..I guess 120 is rather safe for 100 CPU -- ================================================================= Kevin Chua e-mail : chua@server.uwindsor.ca Home Page: http://server.uwindsor.ca:8000/~chua/
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: Koichi Takagi
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 06:07
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 06:07
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comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup, comp.object, comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc, comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc, comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup, comp.os.os2.advocacy, comp.security.misc, comp.security.unix, comp.software-eng, comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, comp.sys.hp.hpux, comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc, comp.sys.intel, comp.sys.laptops, comp.sys.mac.system In article <stephenkDpAGoz.9E2@netcom.com>, stephenk@netcom.com (Stephen Knilans) wrote: > In article <4jt7ka$bqc@news.ios.com> danat@tribeca.ios.com (Dana H. Taylor Jr.) writes: > > > >>It's okay, Intel has the P55C coming out by the end of the year, with > >>the new MMX instructions, as well as larger Icache and Dcache, so the > >>performance per Mhz will improve as well. > > > >I just bought a Cyrix P120 (100MHZ) 686. I have it over-clocked to 120 > >MHZ. (20 MHZ greater than what it should be at) It goes super fast! I > >only paid $209 for the CPU and $189 for an ASUS PCI motherboard. I am > >very happy with the performance so far. It goes a lot faster than my > >Pentium 100 at work. Any way, my question is : Is it dangerous to > >over-clock the CPU? > > It COULD be. Some work, some don't. > > >Should I set it back to 100. > > If you need the speed, just watch it closely. Otherwise... > > >Will my system > >over-heat? > > It could. WATCH IT! > > > > >Any help would be appreciated, > > Dana > > -- [ This message has been sent to all authors in this thread. All comments may not apply to you. ] You have sent this e-mail posting / newsgroup article to an inappropriate group or overly large number of users. Please note the "To:", "CC:", "Reply-To:", and/or "Newsgroups:" fields in your e-mail program or newsreader, and edit them appropriately before sending messages. Crossposted messages to a large number of groups or users that are likely not interested in the subject is often called "Spam" and is considered improper "Netiquette", that is, rude and/or a sign of unfamiliarity with your equipment. You are encouraged to visit any of the following resources: http://www.luhsd.k12.ca.us/~ak659819/netact.html http://www.fau.edu/rinaldi/netiquette.html http://carbon.concom.com/~dmenter/Netiquette/Prerelease_Netiquette_homepge http://asterix.helix.net/~lisa/netiquette.html http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/BL/blacklist.html http://www.matisse.net/webgen/glossary/pages/IndexDefinition.main.html news.announce.newusers news.newusers.questions -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Cyrirx6x86-166P+: The Fastest PC for DOS/Windows World
Author: Simon Hiscox
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 04:32
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 04:32
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Anthony de Vries <A.H.B.deVries@student.UTwente.nl> wrote: snip ------------ >It can be very dangerous to overclock the CPU. >My brother thought he had bought an Intel DX2-66 over year ago. ------------ snip ------------ > >It turned out that the chip was an OVERCLOCKED AMD Dx2-50.... >Clearly as the problems had gotten so much worse the chip has been >damaged internally. It did run ok on 50Mhz again, but rather than take >the risk that it was allready too much damaged, so that the problems >would come back, we decided to just put a new DX2-66 in it. (A real one >this time.) > >ALL problems we ever had with programs crashing or anything else are >gone! All works ok again. -- This sounds like 'chip scraping' to me! I have heard rumours that it happened but, until now, no firm confirmation. Thanks for the warning. Can anyone point me to an up-to-date program to reliably tell me what type of CPU I have and at what clock speed it is running? I have an old one which can't distinguish between the various manufacturers or between '486 and P5. Regards, Simon Hiscox (HP Associate Consultant) ____________________________________________________________________________ Telstra Phoenix Project 33/300 Latrobe Street, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 3001 Internet: c830987@powers.phoenix.telecom.com.au
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