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Re: MS-DOS v5.0 Release Date 11th June (addendum)

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From: Bob SCHMIDT
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1991 07:20
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In article <72917@microsoft.UUCP> I wrote:

   [concerning EMM386 and WIN /2 conflict]

%% My educated guess is that we will fix this in the next release of
%% Windows (along with obviating WINA20.386).  Note that the conflict
%% only arises when you use EMM386 for UMB support.  You can turn
%% off UMB, and the problem will go away.  This will at least allow
%% you to run in standard mode, although maybe not under the memory
%% configuration you would like.

I want to clarify this a bit.  While the UMB support does cause this
conflict, so will EMS.  That is, if EMM386 has actually allocated and used
EMS on behalf of some application, Windows will not run in standard mode.
For example, add the lines

    device=c:\dos\emm386.exe on
    device=c:\dos\ramdrive.sys /a

to CONFIG.SYS and reboot.  This creates a RAM-drive in expanded memory.
Now WIN /S (or WIN /2) will generate the familiar "can't run" message.

Also, the question was raised "why does QEMM work?".  It appears
that QEMM works by patching the Windows DOS extender (DOSX.EXE).
If true, this is extremely version-bound; I've heard that the
QEMM version that works in Windows 3.00 breaks in Windows 3.00A.
All this is from unverified sources within MS; you'd have to
contact Quarterdeck for the real scoop.
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--  NOTE:  The above is mine alone; I do NOT speak for Microsoft.
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--  Bob Schmidt        bobsc@microsoft.UUCP
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From: bobsc@microsoft.UUCP (Bob SCHMIDT)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: MS-DOS v5.0 Release Date 11th June (addendum)
Message-ID: <72927@microsoft.UUCP>
Date: 16 Jun 91 07:20:18 GMT
References: <gurganus.675797385@stable.ecn.purdue.edu> <1006@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> <72798@microsoft.UUCP> <6669@gssc.UUCP> <72917@microsoft.UUCP>
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