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Re: Moribund computer

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From: Bill R. Adams
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:00
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It was worth a try, but unfortunately to no avail.  Since the dealer
installed the DOS program, it is likely the Uninstall feature was not
loaded, since it would have required a second boot of the disks to
load. Thanks for the advice. 

Roy Brown <roybrown@affirm.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <66qahq$20u$1@news1.sirius.com>, "Bill R. Adams"
><minister@sirius.com> writes
>>
>>
>>"Matt Linden" <mattlinden@usa.net> wrote:
>>>Bill R. Adams wrote in message <66poq7$kn$1@news1.sirius.com>...
>>> I can only access the C: prompt with the reboot
>>>>disk.
>>>>However it is dead.  This message displays when I search for DIR:
>>>>"Volume in Drive C has no Label. Volume Serial Number is 3465-13EA".
>>>>When I attempt to access windows (typing Win at the C prompt), I get
>>>>this message: "bad command or file name". Sorry for the confusion. - b
>>
>>
>>>You won't be able to get into Windows from a boot disk even if the files are
>>>there because the Windows directory isn't in the path.  When you do a DIR
>>>C:\ are there any files or directories listed?  
>>
>>No. When I attempt to access C Drive directories, I get nothing but
>>the Volume or bad command messages mentioned above. 
>>
>My middle son deleted his DoubleSpaced volume, in the mistaken belief
>that it would free some disc space. (Well, it did, it did, but not in
>the way that he imagined).

>So, an agonised phone call, but not, alas, before he had made some
>futile rescue attempts which worsened the situation. 

>Latest backup!? Did I think he had *ever* copied 400mB to floppies!?

>My advice was to boot from A: and use MS-DOS Undelete. 

>Logical, since to DOS the I: drive *is* the hard drive, and the Dspaced
>volume is just a giant MS-DOS file. It's the C: drive that is 'faked up'
>by Dspace. Including, as you will have discovered by now, shadowing the
>real system files from I: on C:. There's only really one instantiation
>of each system file.

>If he had called me immediately he'd bolloxed the machine, I think it
>would have got the lot back perfectly, but his earlier rescue attempts
>had compromised things a bit.

>Undelete saw the Compressed Volume, and offered to undelete it, and
>indeed did so. We had to tell it what the first letter of the file
>name(s) used to be, but otherwise it wans't hard.

>However, the machine still wasn't really straight. Scandisk (in read-
>only mode!) reported that there were all sorts of cross-linked files,
>and other file system anomalies. And we decided that letting Scandisk
>rewrite it would only make things worse.

>But by the nature of modern-day PCs, the 400mB was mostly installed apps
>and games; the truly irreplaceable was a relatively modest selection of
>.doc and .wri files. Modest in size, but still several term's-worth of
>teaching notes....

>Also, there were a few .inis that would save a lot of reconfiguration,
>and we could get a directory list, which at least helped him remember
>what was supposed to be on there.

>So we knife-and-forked what we could to floppies, and did a complete
>reinstall.


>I reckon you are about where he was, and I reckon that the same sort of
>rescue might work for you. Nobody here has yet mentioned Undelete; I
>wonder why not?

>For the future, I recommend you take up the machine's offer to hide the
>I: drive away......
>-- 
>Roy Brown               Phone : (01684) 291710     Fax : (01684) 291712
>Affirm Ltd              Email : roybrown@affirm.co.uk
>The Great Barn, Mill St 'Have nothing on your systems that you do not    
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From: minister@sirius.com (Bill R. Adams)
Subject: Re: Moribund computer
Date: 1997/12/13
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