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Article #1512Re: Borland NZ complaints (longish)
From: Wey Jing HO
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:04
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:04
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In <1992Sep15.064208.25085@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann) writes: I usually solve this sort of problem by using a great little utility call DISKDUPE available from normal SIMTEL-20 sites and its mirrors. You can dupe 5 1/4 disks with its 1.2MB format into a HD 3 1/2 as 1.2MB format. Great isn't it? >Posted for a Usenet-challenged friend.... > ----------------------- >Am I a whinger or what? >When Borland (NZ) released the BC3.1 upgrade I trotted along tuit-suite as fast >as my little legs would carry me only to find out that they'd sold all the 3.5" >copies and I'd have to make do with a 5.25" one. No problem... my machine's >got two drives so I could install it off B:. >Software was installed ... no worries. Bit short on disk space here so I just >installed what I needed, not the whole 50MB or so. >Today I needed to install the said BC3.1 onto a PS/2 which only has a 3.5" >drive (before you complain "copyright".. this is a machine that I use on-site >so according to Borland's copyright I'm entitled to have a copy on two machines >providing only one is in use at any time.. I can't be in two places at once ><grin>). >Anyway.. I digress >I spent about an hour copying the 18 5.25" disks onto the same number of 3.5" >disks (formatting then using XCOPY). Off I went to the site in town and >commenced to install BC3.1 using my 3.5" disks. >All went well until suddenly the install program came up with an error >complaining that it couldn't find WINLIB.ZIP. ... guess what? >WINLIB.ZIP (or maybe it was another file, I forget) was on a disk that the >install program hadn't even asked for yet. In fact it had stopped asking for >disks at number 16 of the set of 18. Strange me thinks! >Looks as if Borland's install program is too smart for its own good.. it >"knows" that if you're installing off 3.5" HD media then you only need 16 disks >so the other 2 in my set were completely ignored. >I rang Borland..... >Borland> "Yep that's right, you can't just copy from 5.25 onto 3.5, it" >Borland> "won't install properly" >"I know that... can I get a 3.5" media set from you? >Borland> "Nope.. not for at least 2 months" >"What? why the delay?" >Borland> "We're not shipping them until all the orders for the upgrade" >Borland> "have been filled first" >"Well what do I do then <situation explained>" >Borland> "You'll just have to buy another upgrade for $100+ >"But I already OWN an upgrade, I just want it on 3.5in disks!" >Borland> "Too bad" >"Maybe you could lend me a set of 3.5in disks that I could copy and return?" >Borland> "Sorry, I can't let the master disks leave the office" >"Well could *you* copy them for me?" >Borland> "Nope, sorry, I'm too busy" >"Thank you for your 'assistance', good bye" ><click> >What the hell is going on here! Is the word "support" a foreign concept to >these people? Sure BC3.1 is a *great* product but Borland NZ stink and with an >attitude like that I'm tempted to switch to Microsoft C/C++ excepting they're >no better.. after all it did take over a week just to get a price out of them >and then it was 2x the US list price. >I did solve the problem in the end by writing a program which concatenated the >Borland *.CA? files into a *.ZIP, then I manually unzipped the last little bit >and installed it by hand. > -------------------- >Editorial notes: > - He couldn't install it onto the 5.25" system and back it up onto 3.5" system > since there wasn't enough room on the 5.25" one to hold it all. > > - The comment about switching to MSC should probably be taken lightly, since > MS NZ's support is truly appalling. > > - And you think *you* had it bad..... :-). -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Wey Jing Ho Tel: 61-3-573-2567 E-mail : sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au< >Physics Dept., Monash University ( Caulfield Campus ), Melbourne, AUSTRALIA< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!munnari.oz.au!bruce.cs.monash.edu.au!monu6!sci240s From: sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO) Subject: Re: Borland NZ complaints (longish) Message-ID: <1992Sep15.100401.21521@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia. References: <1992Sep15.064208.25085@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:04:01 GMT Lines: 101