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Re: Borland

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From: Dave Goldblatt
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1991 09:39
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[Sorry for what may seem to be a flame, but this stuff is really
starting to irk me.]

In article <27645@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> jdb@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Brian K. W. Hook) writes:

   Is it just me or is Borland royally shafting C developers?  I mean, we have
   TP for Windows (which INCLUDES Windows classes!), we have TP 6.0 with
   ObjectVision, and we have ObjectVision....all include GUI classes.  And now
   we have BC++, which is highly popular, with NO GUI classes built in.  I
   feel like we're getting ripped.

Fine.  Don't use Borland, then.  Buy Microsoft C.  But wait!  It doesn't
include Windows classes either!  In fact, it doesn't even include a C++
compiler!

Borland has said that at some point they may add similar functionality
to Borland C++.  If you need them now, go out and buy a commercial
package!  There's plenty of them out there!  I'd much prefer that
Borland's R&D would be spent on enhancing their language products than
putting out classes which I'd probably end up rewriting anyway.

   Then again, maybe I just don't want to code in Pascal and am whining....

This sounds like it's the case.  Sorry, but you said it. :-)

Would you be willing to spend another $250 on the Borland C++ compiler if
they included a basic class library?  No?  Then what's the problem?

How much did you pay for your Borland C++?  Did you get it through the
upgrade?  Irregardless of that, sit down and figure out how much MS C 6.0
and the SDK would cost you.

"Getting ripped" certainly doesn't qualify.

   *sigh*

Yeah.  I'm sorry, but I'm really tired of this sort of complaint.  If
you need a GUI library, WRITE ONE.  Then give it away (a la GNU).

Needless to say, these are MY opinions.  You may share them, and if
so, I sympathize. :-)

-dg-
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