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Re: MSDOS/intel machine

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From: Allen J Michielsen
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:21
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In article @newstand.syr.edu> dmeltzer@erc.cat.syr.edu (David Meltzer) writes:
>In article <@ub.d.umn.edu> cbusch@ub.d.umn.edu (Chris) writes:
>>   Ok.  I will rephrase my question.
>>Is there a msdos computer that does not run intel binary code (excluding
>>emulaters)? (V20/AMD/Cyrix chips and the like all run intel binary
>>code.)

>If a computer didn't run Intel code, then it wouldn't be able to run
>Ms-Dos.  Ms-Dos is not a portable OS like Unix may be, it only is made for
>Intel code, like Mac's System 7 wont run on anything but a Motorola.

Bssst.  Thanks for playing...
There are several software emulators to run MS-DOS and DOS applications on
non-Intel CPU's.  Soft-PC may be the most well known.  They have a package
for MAC's, which do not have a Intel CPU, and SPARC's (Sun SparcStations)
which also doesn't have a Intel CPU.
Neither of the CPU's can -run Intel code- but they both do execute intel binary
code by reading it, and -converting- it into native code (a gross 
simplification).

A version of MS-DOS could be written for almost any native CPU available,
but I suppose the MS could be forced to be dropped from it...
Of course the software emulator was specifically excluded from the discussion.
The real point may be put that the original question may well still be flawed.
I'm not sure what value the question or answer is, but generally, I'd say the
best answer is no.  There is no msdos or dos computer that does not have a
Intel CPU as a core cpu.  The DEC Rainbow 100 & 100+ computer may have come
the closest, it had a 8086 and a Z80.  As I understand it, the Z80 assisted
in the video partion of the system, and it required a special version of dos
to run on it because of the Z80.  Versions 2.10, & 3.10 are available for it
currently.  WANG may have made a DOS or MSDOS for a non-Intel cpu I don't know.
Anyway, David's real point may have been, even if a DOS or MSDOS is available
for a non-Intel cpu system, DOS applications would have to be run between e
either a software emulator or a binary converter, in order to run, because
Intel binary code (programs) are written for a hardware platform (aka a intel
cpu,) AND a OS like dos.
al
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From: amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen)
Subject: Re: MSDOS/intel machine
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Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
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