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Re: Help - NDS protocl specification please!

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From: Thomas Brugger
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:00
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In article <3180898A.65737ED6@ritz.southern.co.nz>,
Matthew Grant  <grantma@ritz.southern.co.nz> wrote:
>I have been looking very hard for this!

Not surprising.
>
>I am working on a project that requires an in depth description of the
>way the NDS protocol talks on networks.  I am particulary interested in
>the packet exchanges that take place, and the structure/breakdown of the
>packets.

Use a packet sniffer or disassemble the nwcalls.dll or other libraries
supplied by Novell.
>
>Does any one know where I can get hold of a copy of the NDS protocol
>specification?   Has anyone been able to reverse engineer it using a
>network analyser?  Are there any books that cover this technical aspect
>of it, or any other source of information on the Internet?

This is even more secret than the packet burst/signing part of
the protocol. Making full use of NDS, repairing errors and evaluating
security requires more in-depth knowledge than Novell is willing
to give us. Many admins do not even know all aspects of Netware 3.x.
This are reasons to do not bother with Netware 4.
>
>Could you please mail me your answers.  I am extremely interested in
>hearing about ANY source that someone knows of. (By this I mean do not

Many people are interested in this. Including me. Most likely you wont
get any useful answer. Another interesting but unansered question
is the length of the RSA public keys uses for servers and users.
Claiming that all is sufficiently secure and C2-approved says nothing.
At least nothing proveable.
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From: fd1@aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Thomas Brugger)
Subject: Re: Help - NDS protocl specification please!
Date: 1996/04/29
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