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Re: BOOK: OS/2 Warp Unleashed, 4th Edition cancelled

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From: Dave Cinege
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 00:00
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In <5qvvfa$9h2@news.nternet.net>, ossi@iname.com (Doug Toltzman) writes:
>In <869410485snz@deltrak.demon.co.uk>, ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson) writes:
>>In article <5qoa91$61d$4@news1.telenordia.se>
>>	   nospammikkelm@datasvar.se "Mikkel Breiler" writes:
>>
>>> Also OS/2 doesn't run on Macs...
>>>
>>> ...but just think how that would be, the friendliest machines
>>> running IBM's finest. :-)
>>
>>While appreciating your sentiments, I'm struggling with your
>>logic.  Macs certainly have a reputation for being nice to use
>>(whether earned or not, I cannot say) but surely much of that
>>comes from the software?  If the Bad OS Fairy were to sneak into
>>your home and load Win95 on your machine, displacing OS/2, would
>>it remain as "friendly"?  It'd be like your family pet catching
>>rabies.  <g>
>>--
>>Andrew Stephenson
>>
>
>You may be missing a critical point.  One of the reasons that Macs are friendlier
>is that they don't have the 8086 baggage with 16 IRQ's (of which only about 5)
>are available and 8 DMA channels; all of which must somehow be allocated to
>the installed hardware in such a way that no component conflicts with another.

That has to do with the BUS. Notice the PCI did away with most of the user 
having to see this. Also are you saying that M68K's don't have any 
interrupts you need to contend with?

>The Mac was 32-bit from the beginning 

No it was not. No such thing as 32-bit in the user market when it came out.
The 68020 was not even thought of.

>with built in hardware configuration and
>a very homogenous (however proprietary) hardware set that integrates very
>closely to the system to improve performance and ease of installation.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. The Mac is a pile of 
glue with a 68K and a BIOS (newer PPC versions aside). We used to have 100% 
support in our Amigas like 8 years ago. All you needed was a ROM image.
Little if anything in the Mac was/is what one could call proprietary.

>IMHO, OS/2 is as good (or better) a UI as System 7 (and its offspring).  It will
>probably never happen, but if OS/2 were available for the Power-Mac it would
>be a formidable combination.

The Mac OS still isn't even preemptive multitasking.  It's a friggin toy no
matter how pretty it looks.

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From: dcinege@fuckthejunkmailers.org (Dave Cinege)
Subject: Re: BOOK: OS/2 Warp Unleashed, 4th Edition cancelled
Date: 1997/08/03
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