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Article #4651Re: All this OS/2 is dead talk.
From: Sysop
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 00:00
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 00:00
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In article <5hm64f$n0f@client2.news.psi.net>,
os2@mistik.express.net (Mustafa Soysal MS57) wrote:
>In article <zEVPz0E6A5GN092yn@momeraths.org>,
>Sysop <MarchHare@momeraths.org> wrote:
>> <Nk8NzgRDAMcC091yn@bigblue.no> <5hc5mg$p0o@client3.news.psi.net>
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>>In article <5hc5mg$p0o@client3.news.psi.net>,
>>os2@mistik.express.net (Mustafa Soysal MS57) wrote:
>>>In article <Nk8NzgRDAMcC091yn@bigblue.no>, B. Vermo <bv@bigblue.no> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>It must be something you (or your hardware) are doing. I have always
>>>>been running on a 365 day 24 hour basis. All serious problems up to
>>>>now have been traced to hardware or experimental software. Warp 4 is
>>>>not as stable as OS/2 1.3, but then nothing else on the Intel platform
>>>
>>>Linux is, and apparently reportedly on os2-l, NT 3.1 is...
>>
>>Why not compare it to NT 4.0? Because you know it is not as stable as
>>3.51. At least have the courtesy to compare apples to apples.
>
>;) You would have to compare it to Warp 4.0....I am comparing it to
>Warp3.0, and even Warp Connect 3.0
Re-read the above. You are comparing Warp 4 with NT "3.1".
>>Odd, I have a machine at work that does unattended reboots. The
>>hardware isn't even all that great, and I wouldn't recommend that
>>particular combination to anyone. Yet, it does work. It only reboots
>>when a specified parameter is given to a specified program under
>>specified conditions. It hasn't needed a reboot in a while, and I was
>>recently out of the office for 1-1/2 weeks.
>
>;) Yeah, don't use the keyboard, because the keyboard and the mouse
>drivers have bugs too...
Pretty hard to use the keyboard or mouse while doing unattended reboots.
>>>However, weekly manual restarts would be acceptable, even for ISP use,
>>>if OS/2 was that stable. But it is not. And I cannot be locked in a
>>>certain selection of hardware, especially if it is not known at any time
>>>until you tried it since I may need to upgrade for performance reasons.
>>
>>Yet, you say you did your own research. Sounds like you made a bad
>>decision, and now you are trying to blame anyone but yourself. Heck,
>>I've made a few bad decisions myself. Deal with it.
>
>Comprehend what you read, and you may figure out that dealing with it is
>not possible due to lack of a guaranteed platform. <G> How about
>Aptivas? It is IBM hardware isn't it?
Frankly, I don't buy IBM hardware. I have run previous versions of OS/2
(and DOS and Windows) on PS/2's at a previous employer. Sorry, but no
thanks.
>So what hardware was so bad, and what is the good one you have found?
>Did IBM tell you what was good?
>Did IBM tell you what was bad?
The only "advice" I got from IBM was their compatibility list. The rest
was either through personal experience or talking to people who had a
clue. After putting up with a 486 that barely ran Windows, I started
lurking in newsgroups as well. A gem here, a gem there, wading through
a lot of crap, but I decided I wanted a machine that would run
practically anything (I originally was going the NT route, but that's a
different story). After ditching a computer shop that couldn't
recognize good h/w from bad, I started asking friends and acquantices
who they dealt with, etc.
>>I should mention, also, that my home machine does a lot of beta testing,
>>including junk I've hacked together myself. Honestly, I'm sometimes
>>surprised it does as well as it does.
>
>That means, when you say it does well, it does well for running
>betas.... I don't run any betas...May be I should run betas to make it
>appear more stable than it is...
Actually, it seems to run the more commercial stuff as well. Maybe the
difference is that I'm not afraid of my computer. After all, I picked
out a lot of parts myself :)
>>All operating systems have their flaws, and all major vendors, including
>
><G> Now the confession, and that everbody else sins too...
And you don't? Stupid question to ask a pathological liar, I guess.
>
>>IBM, have their flaws. OTOH, the directionless efforts by MS ("What
>>are we going to do tonight, Brain?" "What we do every night, Pinky.
>>We're going to take over the world."), the cluelessness of Gateway
>>technicians and the strangeness of Seagate products make IBM look like
>>angels.
>
>:) I could not expose you better than that.
Even realizing you are a smart-ass, this didn't make sense to me for
quite a while. Maybe, I've just had a little more experience in dealing
with hardware problems than you have? Could even be my fucking job to
troubleshoot PC's? Naw, that would make too much sense for you.
John
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