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In <5h7kkq$69s@client3.news.psi.net>, os2@mistik.express.net (Mustafa Soysal MS57) writes:
>>small office/home office market as well as the consumer market, but OS/2
>>came from an organization that has always been devoted to developing
>>products for the big corporate market.    Small businesses have little use
>>for things like Communications Manager/2, or CICS/2, for example.   The
>
>You have no idea what small businesses have a use for.

Uh, I think I do.  I'm a 50% partner in one small business, I associate
with three other owners of small businesses, and I've worked for quite
a few small businesses in the past.  I think it is you who has no
idea what small businesses have a use for.  To be perfectly clear,
I define a small business as one with 50 employees or less and less
than $10 mil revenue per year.

>>SOHO/consumer efforts have always been a lower priority, looking at the
>>history of OS/2.
>
>The history from a point between 2.1 and 3.0....They did fine with their
>efforts during 2.0 and early 2.1.

No, again you are in error.  OS/2 2.0 was clearly directed at the corporate
market.  This I am 100% certain of; I worked as a contractor at an IBM
site at that time and was involved with OS/2 2.0 from the early,
non-WPS betas (6.134 and up) through the betas of OS/2 2.1.  Guess what -
it was directed towards IBM's traditional customer base.

>>I'm sorry your fax/data utility failed, but you can't blame the lack of demand for
>>such a niche product on OS/2 as you have done in previous posts - I'd be surprised
>
>You have a reading comprehension problem.  I said IBM lied about the
>number of OS/2 sales and witheld information that most of the sales went
>to banks and insurances.  There were no more than about 10,000 real
>buyers be it small businesses or home office users, yet IBM was claiming
>1 mio sales at that time.  And I said, even today, there is no market of
>1mio real buyers outside of IBM's "channel marketing", and writing
>applications other than the bank or insurance market will see no market.
>(Not even small business applications)

Really?   Our application has easily sold more than 10k copies, and I'm
pretty sure that other items have sold many times more than that.   PMMail
comes to mind, as does Object Desktop, to name a few of the many excellent
OS/2 packages currently available.

>>if you sold many more copies of such a thing on any platform. You obviously 
>>have an axe to grind with OS/2, and seem to go out of your way 
>
>You would have an axe to gring with IBM if they weren't able to bring
>out a stable version that can run more than 24 hours stable (that's the
>most stable it got, after dooming the system to do pretty much nothing
>dropping another line of business).

According to uptime, our central server (running OS/2), has been up for
over 34 days.  Let's take a look at what is currently running on it :

  OS/2 Warp Connect
  File/Print services
  Axis network printer software
  SQL Anywhere (SQL database server)
  Back Again/2 tape backup software
  IBM Internet Connection Server (web server)
  Changi (NNTP news server)
  SMTP/POP3 e-mail server
  PPP remote dial-in server

Running for 34 days easily tops your claim of 24 hours.  And, looking at
the log, the reason the system was last re-booted was because new software
was installed.

I think you inhaled this time, Mr. President.

Cheers,
Brad